The guys continue speaking with Phi Slama Jama's Bryan Williams about the team, the 30 for 30 documentary, Hakeem Olajuwon, and other shenanigans. Then they have the Houston Chronicle's Joseph Duarte on to discuss the University of Houston trying to bring back Tom Herman, the Big 12's decision not to expand, and the ramifications that decision will have on Houston's direction over the next couple of years. They conclude the show contemplating what amount of money it will take to bring back Tom Herman.