If you cast your mind back to 2015, perhaps you will remember the New Zealand Flag referendum - it was an exercise by the then National Led government to vote for a new flag. A member of the flag consideration panel says that the exercise was worthwhile to gauge where people stood on the issue. At a recent symposium, Mulholland who is working towards his PhD in flags and national identity, discussed the depiction of symbols on flags as seen on the battlfield both here and overseas.