Natural Justice Podcast

In this episode of Fish People, David Dietz from the Responsible Fishing Vessel Scheme joins Eva van Heukelom to talk about the complex role of social audits in fisheries.

There’s no one-size-fits-all solution for social compliance in this sector. Many stakeholders disagree on whether social audits should play any role at all. But the reality is: they do. That’s why it’s important to listen to those working directly with these tools, people like David, who not only explain how audits are used, but are often the first to point out their flaws.

This is part I of a two-part episode.

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In this episode of Fish People, Eva van Heukelom speaks with Widad Natify about Morocco’s national fisheries monitoring system. From real-time surveillance to inter-agency cooperation, Widad offers a rare look into how Morocco tracks and enforces fisheries activity along its extensive coastline. What does it take to monitor compliance across hundreds of vessels and remote areas — and how has the system evolved?

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In this episode of Fish People, lawyer Pieter van Welzen joins us to discuss state responsibility in the context of hidden vessel ownership. When vessels operate under flags of convenience and true ownership remains obscured, who is accountable for illegal fishing, or environmental harm? We explore legal principles, state duties under international law, and practical solutions to improved ownership transparency. 🎣 Subscribe to our newsletter for updates, events & more stories from the world of seafood production & oceans governance: https://natural-justice.kit.com/fabd00da61🌐 Learn more about our work: www.naturaljustice.nl🎧 Listen to more episodes and follow wherever you get your podcasts.

Why do we stay in a sector that continues to get a bad rep? In this episode of Fish People, we talk about our deep love for the fisheries sector - what drew us in and why we are never leaving. From Alaska’s icy docks to policy rooms and advocacy battles, we share unfiltered stories, lessons learned, and the purpose that keeps us going.

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