Today's guest is Birgitta Böckeler!

Birgitta is is a distinguished engineer and global lead for AI-assisted software delivery at ThoughtWorks. Her full-time work is to figure out how engineering teams can make the most out of AI.

With Birgitta, we talked about her favorite workflows, how she uses AI in the IDE, in the terminal or in a genetic mode. We discussed AI impact on productivity and what the best teams are getting right, which others are not. And finally, we talked about how AI impacts both junior and senior engineers and how we can get the best out of both skeptics and optimists.

(01:27) Introduction

(04:58) A day in the work of data

(11:04) Large and smalls change sets

(15:57) The strength of Cloud Code

(18:35) Using AI tools in ThoughtWorks

(21:41) Figuring AI productive value

(27:24) Getting the most out of AI

(30:10) AI assistance in large code bases

(32:21) Good for humans = Good for AI

(39:10) AI and documentation

(41:49) Software engineer role in AI landscape

(48:24) Junior engineers and learning

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