Navigating Between The Lines

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  • I Did a 72 Hour Fast. Would I Do It Again? | NBTL Revisited

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    RUNNING IT BACK: NBTL Revisited 🎙️

    This week we’re going back to the time my friend Heather and I decided not to eat for 72 hours. 

    Would I do it again? Yes. Am I planning another one anytime soon? Absolutely not.

    These days, I occasionally do a 24-hour fast, and I’ve realized I didn’t need to keep doing the extreme version to keep the part that worked for me.

    We’re also talking about the endless “what I eat in a day” content, why I’m still looking for the woman eating pizza followed by the ice cream run, and the bigger question I keep coming back to.. what actually makes you feel good in your life?

    A quick note before you listen: This episode shares our personal experiences with fasting and is not medical advice. Listening back, there are definitely moments where I confidently repeat things I’d read about fasting like I had suddenly acquired a medical degree in those 72 hours. I had not. Please talk with a qualified healthcare professional before making decisions about fasting or your health.

    I took the part that worked for me and left the rest. Here’s the original episode.

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  • Why Are We So Busy? | NBTL Revisited

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    We say it constantly.. life goes so fast.

    And then we turn around and fill every available inch of it.

    This week I’m running it all the way back to Episode 3, Between the Minutes. I recorded this almost a year ago and apparently had nine minutes to discuss being busy, my son being born early, grief, my Grandma Sandy, how we spend our time AND the moon. I also talked approximately 400 words per minute.

    But listening back, I realized I was asking a question then that I’m still asking now, Busy doing what?

    After a summer that felt both really full and really good, I’m realizing I have more control over the pace of my life than I sometimes want to admit.

    We can't slow down time. But maybe we can stop filling every damn minute of it.

    Here’s Episode 3, with a little perspective from almost one year later.

    The editing does not hold up. The moon does. 🌙

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    14 min
  • 40 Things I’ve Learned by 40

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    I’m turning 40 and I love a list.

    40 things I’ve learned about life, friendship, grief, heartbreak, ambition, starting over, and figuring out who you are along the way.

    Some are big, like knowing you can be sad and still have a really good life. How losing someone changes you, but so does surviving losing them. And how you are never as stuck as you think you are.

    Some are obvious, like wear sunscreen, order the fries for the table (duh) and how a clean kitchen fixes an unreasonable amount of problems.

    We’re also getting close to one full year of Navigating Between the Lines, which has me thinking about starting something new at 39, feeling more like myself than ever, and why turning 40 feels really exciting. I’m ready for it.

    Come hang and we’ll send the list to BuzzFeed when we’re done. 

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  • When Did Summer Stop Feeling Like Summer?

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    Some weeks deserve a plan. This wasn't one of them.

    This week we're talking about summer, the mental load that comes with it, why I suddenly miss having "admin days," and the conversations every mom seems to be having right now.

    We also head north for marathon weekend, celebrate my dad's incredible Top 10 finish at 64 years old, and talk about the lesson I take away every single year from watching that race.

    Because maybe life isn't about coming in first. Maybe it's about continuing to show up when nobody's watching.

    And the people in 95th place deserve a little airtime too.

    Thanks for being here. 🤍

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  • The Best Part About Getting Older (Turning 40 Has Terrible Marketing)

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    I turn 40 in a few weeks, and if I'm being honest... I thought it would feel different.
    Somewhere along the way we decided every decade comes with a reputation. Your 20s are for figuring it out. Your 30s are for building a life. Your 40s? Apparently they're supposed to be the beginning of the end.
    Except... that's not what I'm seeing.
    I asked all of you what gets better with age, and almost every answer was the same: Everything.
    In this episode, we're talking about the terrible marketing around getting older, the wisdom that always seems to arrive a decade late, friendship, confidence, career pivots, raising kids, and why I think 40 might actually be the decade we've been looking forward to all along.
    If you've ever been nervous about getting older, or wondered if you're exactly where you're supposed to be, this one's for you.

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    14 min
  • Nothing Hurts More Than Starting to Heal

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    It'll be four years this week since I lost my mom.
    For a long time, I thought surviving was the hardest part. Just making it through the next hour, the next day, the next week. But nobody prepared me for what came after.
    The first time I laughed without feeling guilty. The moments where life slowly started asking me to participate again.
    Because healing isn't always what we think it will be. Sometimes it feels like betrayal. Sometimes it feels like leaving the person you love behind.
    In this episode, I'm sharing the most honest conversation I've had about grief, what the last four years have really looked like, turning 40 without my mom, and the unexpected lessons I've learned about choosing to keep living.
    If you've ever lost someone you love, if you're carrying heartbreak, or if you're trying to find your way back after life changed forever, I hope you'll borrow my belief until you find your own.
    Maybe healing isn't about letting go. Maybe it's finally learning how to carry them with you.

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    20 min
  • Is It Just Me… or Are Millennials Different?

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    Is it just me… or are millennials actually different?

    This week on Navigating Between the Lines, I'm diving into all the things that make our generation... well, us. From AIM, Blockbuster and MapQuest to LOL, ankle socks, paper grocery lists and unexpected phone calls, we're unpacking the habits, memories and contradictions that define millennials.

    I also asked you to share the most millennial thing you do, and your answers absolutely delivered.

    If you've ever wondered why we all seem to say "I'll figure it out," this one's for you.

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    22 min
  • The Women Who Look Like They Have It All Together - With Jill Zagar, Owner of Pink Lemonade

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    On paper, Jill Zagar has it all together. She's the owner of Pink Lemonade, a mom of two, and the leader of a business that's grown from one small storefront into four locations. 

    But behind the scenes? It's youth sports, laundry, family, long days, and trying to take care of everyone else.. sometimes at the expense of herself.

    In this episode, Jill opens up about building a business while raising a family, working alongside her parents, redefining success, and the health scare that reminded her why taking care of herself matters too.

    If you've ever looked around and wondered how everyone else seems to be doing it all... this conversation is for you.

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    38 min
  • More Than Skincare: Peptides, Aging & Everything In Between with Meredith Kent

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    Meredith Kent from Skin CoLab is back on Navigating Between the Lines, and we cover everything from Botox, peptides and skincare trends to social media, raising teenagers, confidence, getting older and learning who to trust when everyone online has an opinion.

    Along the way, we talk about what actually works, what isn't worth your money, skincare for kids, laser treatments, why influencers aren't always the best source of advice, and why aging might not be something to fear after all.

    If you've ever found yourself wondering what really matters when it comes to taking care of yourself, this conversation is for you.

    In this episode, we talk about:
    • Botox, peptides and today's biggest skincare trends
    • What actually makes the biggest difference as we age
    • Why trusting the right experts matters
    • Kids, skincare and the Sephora generation
    • The influence of social media on beauty and wellness
    • Confidence, getting older and embracing a simpler life
    • Podcasting, motherhood and a few unexpected detours along the way

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    42 min
  • 41 Years, 120 Miles & My Dad

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    For Father's Day, I'm sharing a story that's been part of my life for as long as I can remember.

    My dad has raced the AuSable River Canoe Marathon for 41 years. I've raced it twice.. both times with him.

    While this episode takes you inside one of the toughest endurance events you've probably never heard of, this story isn't really about canoe racing.

    It's about fathers and daughters, family traditions, grief, perspective, and the memories we don't realize we're making while we're living them.

    From running the Mio Dam portage as a kid, to racing alongside my dad after losing my mom, I'm reflecting on the people who shape us, the traditions that raise us, and how our perspective changes with time.

    As a bonus coincidence, this is Episode 41 of Navigating Between the Lines.. and this summer marks my dad's 41st start in the AuSable River Canoe Marathon.

    Happy Father's Day to all the dads, father figures, and families celebrating this weekend.

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Navigating Between the Lines is a podcast for women navigating friendship, motherhood, grief, identity, relationships, aging, and all the life transitions nobody really prepares you…