Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin’s Noise—the show where we cut through the clutter and bring you the clearest insights on Bitcoin.

I’m your host, Kane McGukin, and today I’m joined by Pierre Rochard, long-time Bitcoiner and builder whose path runs from Wall Street securitization to Kraken, Riot, and now founding the Bitcoin Bond Company. In this episode, Pierre breaks down the emerging market for Bitcoin-backed notes. We discuss how private credit and declining volatility set the stage for a true Bitcoin yield curve, and what ETFs, custody choices, and KYC/AML realities mean for adoption.

We also dig into stablecoins like Tether and their role in dollarization abroad and how that liquidity ultimately strengthens Bitcoin’s financial plumbing.


Pierre Rochard: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre
Nakamoto Institute: https://nakamotoinstitute.org/

Kane McGukin: https://kanemcgukin.substack.com/ and https://x.com/kanemcgukin

America’s global power has always been built on controlling networks, money, trade, and communication. But today, those networks are under attack. 

China’s Belt & Road is building a parallel system, Stablecoins are being weaponized as tools of financial repression, and Bitcoin is emerging as a strategic asset that could flip global finance.

Add AI-driven narrative warfare, and we’re entering a battle between centralized control, the Tower and decentralized freedom, the Square. 

Today, Matthew Pines and I unpack how America’s monetary tech stack is being rebuilt; before it’s too late.

Kane McGukin
X: https://twitter.com/kanemcgukin
kanemcgukin.substack.com

Matthew Pines
X:https://x.com/matthew_pines
https://www.btcpolicy.org/
https://www.btcpolicy.org/articles/a-global-economic-reordering-us-china-competition-and-bitcoin-as-tool-of-us-statecraft

Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin’s Noise, the podcast where we cut through the clutter and bring you the clearest insights on Bitcoin.
 
I’m your host, Kane McGukin, and today I’m joined by a former astrophysicist turned Bitcoiner, Stephen Perrenod.
 
In this episode, Stephen walks through the math behind Bitcoin’s power law and shares his views on the emergence of the world’s first money backed by energy. If you’re tired of hype and unreliable price predictions but want to understand Bitcoin from a first-principles lens, this episode is for you. So, sit back, relax, and let’s get started.

Kane McGukin
X: https://twitter.com/kanemcgukin
kanemcgukin.substack.com

Stephen Perrenod
X:https://x.com/moneyordebt
Substack: https://stephenperrenod.substack.com/

Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin’s Noise, the podcast where we cut through the clutter and bring you the clearest insights on Bitcoin.
 
I’m your host, Kane McGukin, and today I’m joined by fellow investor, macro thinker, and data modeler Matthew Mežinskis.
 
In this episode, I talk with Matthew about how Bitcoin may follow a power law curve — not just in price, but in adoption and global liquidity impact. We dive into the models behind exponential vs. proportional growth. Plus, we explore what global liquidity really means and how investors can position themselves for what’s coming.
 
If you’re trying to understand Bitcoin’s place in the global financial system and where the capital flows next, you’re in the right place. So, sit back, relax, and let’s get started.


Kane McGukin
X: https://twitter.com/kanemcgukin
kanemcgukin.substack.com

Matthew Mežinskis
X: https://x.com/1basemoney
porkopolis.io/topmoney

Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin’s Noise, the podcast where we cut through the clutter and bring you the clearest insights on Bitcoin. I’m your host, Kane McGukin, and today I’m joined by artist, builder, and Bitcoin thinker, Simple Steve.

In this episode, I talk with Steve about his project UTXO Oracle and the deeper implications of price discovery in Bitcoin. We explore why exchange-based pricing is fundamentally flawed, how Bitcoin offers a more transparent and decentralized alternative, and what it means to truly see price emerge from the network itself.

Steve shares how his visualizations and tools help strip away noise, offering a way to observe Bitcoin as the foundational layer of a truly free market—where price isn't dictated, but discovered.

If you’re curious about how Bitcoin redefines value, data transparency, and economic trust, this episode is for you. So sit back, relax, and let’s get started.

Kane McGukin X: https://x.com/kanemcgukin
Substack: kanemcgukin.substack.com 

Simple Steve X: https://x.com/SteveSimple
UTXOrcale: https://utxo.live/oracle/

Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin’s Noise, the podcast where we cut through the clutter and bring you the clearest insights on Bitcoin. I’m your host, Kane McGukin, and today I’m joined by Sina from 21st Capital.

In this episode, we dive into the power law dynamics driving Bitcoin’s growth and the critical inflection points ahead. I sit down with Sina from 21st Capital to explore why Bitcoin’s network behaves like a black hole for monetary value, how power laws explain acceleration and collapse, and why innovation beyond "store of value" is essential for Bitcoin’s future. We unpack the risks of centralization, the role of data in navigating volatility, and what history teaches us about unstoppable systems.

If you’re looking to better understand Bitcoin’s past, and its future as a global economic network, you’re in the right place. So, sit back, relax, and let’s get started.

Kane McGukin
X: https://x.com/kanemcgukin
Substack: kanemcgukin.substack.com

Sina
X: https://x.com/sina_21st
21st Capital: https://21stcapital.com/bi/

Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin’s Noise, the podcast where we cut through the clutter and bring you the clearest insights on Bitcoin. I’m your host, Kane McGukin, and today I’m joined by fellow investor, Bitcoiner, and soon to be author Lawrence Lepard.
 
In this episode, I talk with Larry about his upcoming book, The Big Print. We dive into his motivation for sharing the story of sound money, the importance of truth in financial assets, and how he believes Bitcoin offers a solution to our shared view of a broken monetary system. Plus, we explore how these ideas shape our modern world and how you can protect your wealth.

If you’re looking to better understand Bitcoin’s past, and its future as a global economic network, you’re in the right place. So, sit back, relax, and let’s get started.


Kane McGukin
X: https://x.com/kanemcgukin
Substack: kanemcgukin.substack.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/LawrenceLepard
https://www.ema2.com/
Quarterly Letters: https://www.ema2.com/quarterly-letters

Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin’s Noise, the podcast where we cut through the clutter and bring you the clearest insights on Bitcoin. I’m your host, Kane McGukin, and today I’m joined by fellow financial advisor Morgen Rochard.
 
In this episode, we dive into Bitcoin’s role in traditional portfolios, the importance of balancing long-term and short-term investment perspectives, and how the principles of faith shape both Bitcoin and our relationship with money.
 
If you’re looking to better understand Bitcoin’s past, and its future as a global economic network, you’re in the right place. So, sit back, relax, and let’s get started.


Kane McGukin
X: https://x.com/kanemcgukin
Substack: kanemcgukin.substack.com

Morgen Rochard
X: https://x.com/MorgenRochard
Origin Wealth Advisors: https://www.originwa.com/

Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin's Noise, the podcast where we cut through the clutter and bring you the most insightful perspectives in the world of Bitcoin. I'm your host, Kane McGukin, and today we will be discussing using Bitcoin in conjunction with the traditional ACH network with Brian Harrington of Fold.

In our conversation, we discussed the advantage of having access to Bitcoin and dollars side by side. Allowing users to enjoy the benefits of Bitcoin and the ease of paying for everyday life with dollars. 

If you want to better understand Bitcoin’s past and future potential as an economic network, this is the episode for you. So, sit back, relax, and let’s dive in. 


Kane McGukin
X: @kanemcgukin
kanemcgukin.substack.com


Brian Harrington
X: @BrainHarrington
Fold: https://foldapp.com/

Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin's Noise, the podcast where we cut through the clutter and bring you the most insightful perspectives in the world of Bitcoin. I'm your host, Kane McGukin, and today we will be discussing Multisig with Svrgnty.

In our conversation, we discussed the value and security of a multisig setup and how it can be done at the individual level.

If you’re looking to better understand Bitcoin’s past and future potential as an economic network, this is the episode for you. So, sit back, relax, and let’s dive in. 


Kane McGukin
X: https://twitter.com/kanemcgukin
kanemcgukin.substack.com


Svrgnty
X: https://x.com/svrgnty
https://svrgnty.com/

Bitcoin Node post: https://x.com/svrgnty/status/1713977979766780201