Abby and Kellee spend time exploring inner stories they might hold around clients not wanting to see another therapist or explicitly saying they “need you.” They move into describing the somatic feelings and wonder out loud how listeners navigate these dynamics internally or externally. 

Topics Touched on:

Holding the Split: Attachment, Divorce, and Self of the Therapist: www.abbyesquivel.com

Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com

Oak Tree excerpt: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-lost-spells_jackie-morris_robert-macfarlane/25347706/item/88496965/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax_high_vol_scarce_%2410_%2450_17400876848&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17400878123&gbraid=0AAAAADwY45hgnbhFEljQq9r4Cn6-CTDGU&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlqTRBhCBARIsANrkrxjhaqXJZD4XPwnJu_-Whm5vZZpRHFSfIfW66MUIq86lzmyJsLRNwZ4aAoA8EALw_wcB#idiq=88496965&edition=27078928

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