The Whole Therapist

By Abby & Kellee

What's The Whole Therapist about?

Leaving the theorizing out and exploring this strange phenomenon of being a human and a therapist. Abby and Kellee explore the embodied experience of neuroscience and authenticity in the therapy room.

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The Whole Therapist episodes:

05.07.2024
Exploring Attraction to Our Clients
Abby and Kellee get brave and venture into a topic that doesn’t seem openly talked about, feeling attraction to our clients. They share their own experience of this happening, normalize this experience, and explore the neuroscience that is happening when...
03.26.2024
Bravery and Risk: How We Show Up in the Therapy Room
Abby and Kellee use this episode to talk through some recent experiences that required Bravery in their own lives and how we relate to Risk both personally and professionally. They explore noticing how 'being brave' and 'taking risks' show...
02.13.2024
Do We Love Our Clients: A Conversation Between Therapists
Kellee and Abby are back from their holiday break! Join them for the Season 5 in another conversation, all about looooooove
12.01.2023
Exploration of Pregnancy and Being a Therapist
Kellee is going on maternity leave! This episode explores the ways in which therapists who experience pregnancy can be impacted and transformed as practitioners and humans. Abby and Kellee explore their own personal experience with pregnancy in the field, how...
10.03.2023
Time to Take Your Time Off
This episode explores all the ways in which we therapists don’t take the time off we need while encouraging our clients to take time off for self-care. Abby and Kellee explore their own personal struggles with taking time off, including...
09.12.2023
The Deeply Feeling Therapist
Abby and Kellee use this episode to share some announcements and talk through some recent stories in their own lives that have contributed to deep feelings showing up personally and professionally. They explore noticing deep feelings that show up in...
08.01.2023
Let's Talk - Nonverbal Communication
Abby and Kellee touch on how important non-verbal communication is to the healing process for our clients in the therapy space. They share how words are the least important part of the healing process, and ways that non-verbal communication is...
07.05.2023
Feedback: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
Abby and Kellee lean into discussing recent feedback they got on this podcast, and the parallel process that occurs in the therapy space. They explore work from Dan Siegel around “linkage and differentiation.” The two also discuss attachment strategies we...
06.13.2023
At the Edge of Our Own Work
Abby and Kellee spend time wandering through this episode exploring patience with parts of self for our clients, and for ourselves. They untangle the definition of patience, and what this really means in our work with clients. The two name...
05.02.2023
Attuning to the Context
Abby and Kellee spend time exploring how important the context of our client’s lives are. They discuss being attuned with that context versus pushing feelings away, offering coping skills and offering quick fixes. Being with is identified as the most...
04.18.2023
Finding Your Therapeutic Home. Finding Who You'll Journey With.
Abby and Kellee welcome listeners into community. They explore looking for a therapeutic home for therapists and clients alike. Abby and Kellee discuss balancing many therapeutic homes, finding “your people,” and journeying with them. They share the vulnerability that is...
02.28.2023
Welcome to Season 4: Exploring Wonder and Awe
Abby and Kellee welcome listeners to season 4. The two share what they have been up to and begin to explore how therapists are in the presence of awe almost every day according to what Dacher Keltner defines as awe....
12.21.2022
Bidding Season 3 Farewell
Abby and Kellee bid listeners farewell as they end season 3. They reflect on the year, talking about love and loss for clients, supervisees, consultees, friends, family, and themselves. They of course weave in IPNB and even some EMDR around...
11.22.2022
Touch in the Therapy Room
Abby and Kellee broach the topic of using touch in the therapy space with both adult and child clients. They discuss the healing benefits of touch from various therapeutic modalities. Abby and Kellee talk through the sacredness of wordless healing....
11.08.2022
Taking it Personal in the Therapy Space
Abby and Kellee spend time exploring how we know when we as therapists are taking clients' progress, lack of progress, emotions, behaviors, etc. personally. They share their own stories of taking it personal, and strategies that can support the therapist...
10.11.2022
Book Series: The Development of a Therapist: Chapter 5: Holding Uncertainty
Abby and Kellee continue to wonder and wander their way through the multi-seasonal book series. Come laugh together under full moon energy in Chapter 5 of “The Development of a Therapist.” by Louis Cozolino. They model humility, uncertainty,...
09.13.2022
Book Series: The Development of a Therapist. Chapter 4, Part 2
Abby and Kellee continue the multi-seasonal book series and offer continued discussion of Chapter Four: Surface Level and Deep Level Narratives, Part Two! in “The Development of a Therapist.” by Louis Cozolino. They use a powerful question...
08.30.2022
Book Series: The Development of a Therapist. Chapter 4, Part 1
Abby and Kellee continue the multi-seasonal book series and explore Chapter Four: Surface Level and Deep Level Narratives in “The Development of a Therapist.” by Louis Cozolino. They use chapter four to explore the beauty in sitting...
08.16.2022
Are Therapists the Boss? Exploring Structure in the Therapy Room
Come join us as we take a pause on our book series and explore the concept of Structure in the therapy space! Abby and Kellee use their own personal and professional experiences as they reflect on how Structure relates to...
08.04.2022
Accessing the Unconscious (Exploring chapter 3 of the summer book series)
Get ready to smile the whole way through! Abby and Kellee use humor and self-reflection as they explore concepts in chapter three like: self-awareness in the therapy space, process over content, tracking themes, and “listening with the third ear.” They...
07.20.2022
Summer Book Series: The Development of a Therapist. Chapter 2
Abby and Kellee continue the summer book series and explore Chapter Two: Therapist Imagination in “The Development of a Therapist.” by Louis Cozolino. They use chapter two to explore "shuttling," the need for ongoing consultation, and laughter...
07.05.2022
Summer Book Series: The Development of a Therapist. Chapter 1
Abby and Kellee begin to explore chapter one of their summer book series using, “The Development of a Therapist.” They use chapter one to explore how therapists’ and clients’ left and right brain show up in the therapy space. Kellee...
06.14.2022
Sharing Resources: Therapists aren't Gatekeepers
Share the love! Abby and Kellee explore the benefits for both therapists and clients sharing and receiving resources with each other. They talk through ways to share books with clients and highlight the need to walk alongside clients while they...
05.24.2022
Therapists Make Mistakes: Exploring Shame and Compassion
Abby and Kellee explore making mistakes in the therapy room, and the shame that becomes very alive and present for therapists. They share their own stories of mistakes with clients, the shame they felt, and ways they have learned to...
04.26.2022
The Healer's Dilemma: Holding Boundaries with Family and Friends
Topics Touched on:Abby and Kellee explore healing others and having to hold boundaries with our own families and friends. They express the grief that can be present when healers see their own family or friends suffering but needing to maintain...
04.12.2022
Monitoring Self-Disclosure in the Therapy Space
Self-disclosure. What is it? When do we use it? When is it helpful? When can it be harmful? Abby and Kellee discuss the importance of awareness around the intention of the therapist’s disclosure. They ask when does self-disclosure create expansion...
03.22.2022
Talking Heads: Using Talking Intentionally in the Therapy Space
Have you ever had that client that “talks at you,” or noticed you yourself “talking at the client?” Do you ever wonder if words in the therapy room may not be the most optimal for healing? Abby and Kellee spend...
03.08.2022
The Financial Dilemma: A Therapist Journey
Get ready to talk about money! How do we decide our rates? Abby and Kellee explore their personal relationship with money, and how this impacts their relationship with money as private practice owners. While Kellee and Abby focus this episode...
02.22.2022
The Uninspired Therapist
What’s a therapist to do when they feel uninspired? Abby and Kellee use the parallel process of the podcast and being a therapist as they explore the experience of being uninspired. How do we show up for clients when we...
02.08.2022
Grief. Not Just a One Time Topic
Abby and Kellee touch on grief, and the ways it shows up for therapists in the field. They share the need to welcome grief again and again; it cannot be box that is just “checked off.” Abby and Kellee explore...
01.25.2022
Season THREE: Welcoming Clients Back
Abby and Kellee welcome veteran and new listeners to season 3! They share hopes for season 3, and then move into using the parallel process of welcoming clients into our space for the first time, third time, or 100th time....
11.30.2021
Process Over Content
Abby and Kellee say goodbye to season two this episode. As they reflect on their own process, they move into exploring process over content within the therapy space. Why would we want to focus more on process over content? What...
11.09.2021
Daydreaming About a New Career
Abby and Kellee are beginning to wrap up season two and find themselves recording in a rather silly mood. If you are looking for lightness, laughter, and vulnerability join Abby and Kellee as they explore what their careers would be...
10.26.2021
Leaning into Dissociation
Get ready to ground into this episode as Kellee and Abby explore dissociation. They talk about dissociations being on a continuum, a natural, and normal part of all our lives. They also discuss the brilliance in the body dissociating after...
10.12.2021
Curiosity in the Therapy Space
Abby and Kellee talk about curiosity in the therapy room from an IPNB perspective. They explore how compassionate and respectful curiosity looks and feels different in the therapy space versus curiosity where we have an agenda; a path we are...
09.28.2021
Growing Clinical Self-Confidence
Have you ever found yourself in a season reaching too far, too fast, too soon regarding a clinical skill or training? Have you worked in a setting where there wasn’t space for a learning curve, or tolerable doses of new...
09.14.2021
Maintaining Differentiation with Our Clients
Abby and Kellee explore differentiation. How do we begin to enter our client’s pain without making it our own? They spend time talking about how growth happens at the edge (the space between). They share times they have made a...
08.31.2021
Meeting Blocked Trust with Care and Connection
Have you found yourself feeling rejected by a client, or attempting to rattle off multiple solutions for them? Abby and Kellee explore how clients who cannot accept care and trust in the therapy space may be showing you a wise...
08.17.2021
Therapists, Resting Is HARD
Are you listening to your body? Do you know when you need rest? What narratives are you holding about who you are or your worth when you rest? Abby and Kellee explore the lack of internalization that many of us...
08.03.2021
Therapists unite! Cooperation vs. Competition
We only exist and have a beginning because of cooperation. Abby and Kellee reflect on the readings, podcasts, and trainings they have done over the last year and how they all discuss survival being dependent on cooperation. They stress the...
07.20.2021
When the Therapist Gets Fired
How do we maintain connection even in the midst of being fired? Abby and Kellee spend time talking about how important it is to become even more relational when we therapists are in the midst of being fired. They explore...
07.06.2021
Titrating Trauma
“My client said they wanted to do deep trauma work, and then they never returned.” Does this sound like an experience you’ve had? Abby and Kellee discuss modalities and interventions like: EMDR, parts work, expressive therapies, etc. and how to...
06.22.2021
Entrepreneurship: An Interview with Bridgette Black
Abby and Kellee have the pleasure of interviewing Bridgette Black, licensed esthetician, and celebrity/professional makeup artist. Listeners will feel the authenticity and warmth come through their speakers in this episode with Bridgette as she explores many of the layers that...
06.08.2021
The Energetic Powers of the Couch
Are you an in-home therapist, school-based therapist, a therapist in a correctional facility, or a therapist with your own office space? Abby and Kellee attempt to explore all the spaces a therapist practices in, and then discuss how the energy...
05.25.2021
Silence in Session with Clients
What percentage do you think you are talking in sessions with clients? Abby and Kellee explore how important and needed silence is for our clients. Abby and Kellee touch on the difference between being silent and present versus being silent...
05.11.2021
BONUS EPISODE: What is Reflective Functioning?
Topics Touched on:Abby and Kellee touch on reflective functioning and why this is so important for us to assess and support our clients around, but also why it is imperative for us as therapists to have the capacity to do...
04.27.2021
Growing Up in the Field
Abby and Kellee explore how they have each evolved and transitioned between theoretical orientations. They discuss how shame can show up when we find a new orientation that brings deeper healing than we have previously provided. Abby and Kellee use...
04.13.2021
Navigating the Therapeutic Relationship
Abby and Kellee explore relationships in the therapy room, drawing inspiration from an unlikely pair in the documentary "My Octopus Teacher". They use the film to reflect on the many parallels of the client-therapist relationship: the struggle with our own...
03.30.2021
Meeting You In Grief: Community Violence
When tragedy strikes in a therapist’s own community the ability to be present and hold space for others is an understandable challenge. Abby and Kellee explore their own thoughts, feelings, and experiences related to the recent tragedy in their community...
03.09.2021
Holding Both/And
How does holding onto the concept of BOTH/AND help us during this global pandemic? For many therapists their caseloads are overflowing as the mental health crisis in the United States unfolds. With overflowing caseloads brings: abundance AND loss, privilege AND...

What's The Whole Therapist about?

Download our free app to listen on your phone

The Whole Therapist episodes:

Exploring Attraction to Our Clients

Bravery and Risk: How We Show Up in the Therapy Room

Do We Love Our Clients: A Conversation Between Therapists

Exploration of Pregnancy and Being a Therapist

Time to Take Your Time Off

The Deeply Feeling Therapist

Let's Talk - Nonverbal Communication

Feedback: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

At the Edge of Our Own Work

Attuning to the Context

Finding Your Therapeutic Home. Finding Who You'll Journey With.

Welcome to Season 4: Exploring Wonder and Awe

Bidding Season 3 Farewell

Touch in the Therapy Room

Taking it Personal in the Therapy Space

Book Series: The Development of a Therapist: Chapter 5: Holding Uncertainty

Book Series: The Development of a Therapist. Chapter 4, Part 2

Book Series: The Development of a Therapist. Chapter 4, Part 1

Are Therapists the Boss? Exploring Structure in the Therapy Room

Accessing the Unconscious (Exploring chapter 3 of the summer book series)

Summer Book Series: The Development of a Therapist. Chapter 2

Summer Book Series: The Development of a Therapist. Chapter 1

Sharing Resources: Therapists aren't Gatekeepers

Therapists Make Mistakes: Exploring Shame and Compassion

The Healer's Dilemma: Holding Boundaries with Family and Friends

Monitoring Self-Disclosure in the Therapy Space

Talking Heads: Using Talking Intentionally in the Therapy Space

The Financial Dilemma: A Therapist Journey

The Uninspired Therapist

Grief. Not Just a One Time Topic

Season THREE: Welcoming Clients Back

Process Over Content

Daydreaming About a New Career

Leaning into Dissociation

Curiosity in the Therapy Space

Growing Clinical Self-Confidence

Maintaining Differentiation with Our Clients

Meeting Blocked Trust with Care and Connection

Therapists, Resting Is HARD

Therapists unite! Cooperation vs. Competition

When the Therapist Gets Fired

Titrating Trauma

Entrepreneurship: An Interview with Bridgette Black

The Energetic Powers of the Couch

Silence in Session with Clients

BONUS EPISODE: What is Reflective Functioning?

Growing Up in the Field

Navigating the Therapeutic Relationship

Meeting You In Grief: Community Violence

Holding Both/And