In this episode, the hosts discuss the challenges and emotional impact of leaving the teaching profession, focusing on the personal experiences of both Richard and Jane. Richard shares a detailed and candid account of his difficult departure from a teaching role, emphasising the mental strain and unexpected hurdles he faced, including dealing with overwhelming classroom management issues and a lack of support from leadership. Jane contrasts this with her own, more gradual exit from teaching after becoming a mother, where she navigated the complexities of balancing career ambitions with family life.

The conversation also explores how both hosts eventually found new purpose and fulfilment in tutoring and supporting other educators through transitions in their careers.

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