In this episode of Safe Mode, Greg talks with Tom Pace, CEO of Netrise, about the recent Salt Typhoon cyberattack against U.S. telecom networks and how the government is responding. Tom explains why it’s so hard to fully protect or fix these giant, complex systems, even when officials say they have stopped the threat. He points out the tough choices telecom companies face—like keeping service running, following regulations, and fixing security gaps—which don’t always work together. The conversation also covers problems with current rules and why spending more money isn’t always the answer. Listen for a straightforward discussion about what it will really take to keep our communication networks safe.