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In this episode of Never Seen It, we unpack Bugonia (2025), the latest mind-bending film from director Yorgos Lanthimos, and one of his most deceptively accessible movies to date. We went in blind—and quickly found ourselves spiraling into questions about conspiracy culture, corporate power, alienation (literal and metaphorical), and how trauma reshapes reality.
We break down the film’s central premise: two conspiracy-obsessed men kidnap a powerful tech CEO, convinced she’s an alien sent to destroy Earth. What sounds absurd at first becomes increasingly plausible as the film unfolds. Jesse Plemons delivers a chilling performance as Teddy, a man whose grief, abuse, and ideological freefall lead him to radical certainty. Emma Stone is pitch-perfect as a hyper-controlled CEO whose emotional detachment blurs the line between capitalist overlord and extraterrestrial invader.
We spend a lot of time wrestling with the film’s biggest question: at what point did we believe she really was an alien? From disturbing electroshock scenes set to pop music, to superhuman physical moments, to the horrifying calm with which violence is absorbed, Bugonia constantly shifts our certainty. Lanthimos weaponizes tone—jumping from dark comedy to outright dread—to keep us off balance.
The episode also explores the film’s deeper themes, including:
How conspiracy thinking often grows out of real trauma
The overlap between tech CEOs and “inhuman” behavior
The symbolism of bees, control, and resource extraction
Power dynamics between captor and captive
Why making the conspiracy true is the film’s most unsettling choice
We also discuss the film’s shocking supporting turns, including Stavros Halkias as a cop whose presence introduces another layer of moral rot, and how childhood abuse, corporate negligence, and ideological extremism all feed into the story’s bleak worldview.
By the end, we agree on one thing: Bugonia isn’t just asking whether aliens walk among us—it’s asking whether unchecked power has already made monsters of us all.
By Justin Holden, Alex Callego, Anthony Ghirardi, Arnold Callego, Adrian DeLaTorre, Donald Guzman3.7
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In this episode of Never Seen It, we unpack Bugonia (2025), the latest mind-bending film from director Yorgos Lanthimos, and one of his most deceptively accessible movies to date. We went in blind—and quickly found ourselves spiraling into questions about conspiracy culture, corporate power, alienation (literal and metaphorical), and how trauma reshapes reality.
We break down the film’s central premise: two conspiracy-obsessed men kidnap a powerful tech CEO, convinced she’s an alien sent to destroy Earth. What sounds absurd at first becomes increasingly plausible as the film unfolds. Jesse Plemons delivers a chilling performance as Teddy, a man whose grief, abuse, and ideological freefall lead him to radical certainty. Emma Stone is pitch-perfect as a hyper-controlled CEO whose emotional detachment blurs the line between capitalist overlord and extraterrestrial invader.
We spend a lot of time wrestling with the film’s biggest question: at what point did we believe she really was an alien? From disturbing electroshock scenes set to pop music, to superhuman physical moments, to the horrifying calm with which violence is absorbed, Bugonia constantly shifts our certainty. Lanthimos weaponizes tone—jumping from dark comedy to outright dread—to keep us off balance.
The episode also explores the film’s deeper themes, including:
How conspiracy thinking often grows out of real trauma
The overlap between tech CEOs and “inhuman” behavior
The symbolism of bees, control, and resource extraction
Power dynamics between captor and captive
Why making the conspiracy true is the film’s most unsettling choice
We also discuss the film’s shocking supporting turns, including Stavros Halkias as a cop whose presence introduces another layer of moral rot, and how childhood abuse, corporate negligence, and ideological extremism all feed into the story’s bleak worldview.
By the end, we agree on one thing: Bugonia isn’t just asking whether aliens walk among us—it’s asking whether unchecked power has already made monsters of us all.

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