Listening to Ecstasy: The Transformative Power of MDMA is now on audio books. To celebrate that release, we asked Charley back for a more in-depth personal view of how he continues to "listen to ecstasy" in both his professional and personal life.

Charley talks about a recent New York Times article that discusses FDA approval for the use of medical MDMA for treatments of PTSD, substance abuse, obsessive compulsive disorder, phobias, eating disorders, depression, end-of-life anxiety and social anxiety in autistic adults. The FDA is currently in Phase 3 clinical trials that are expected to clear the way for legal use by 2023.

In his third appearance on the show, Charley reads pivotal passages that describe the physical and emotional responses that MDMA creates, as well as it's bonding effects in both his relationship with his spouse and some courageous couples who are exploring MDMA as an option. We invite you to listen as Kevin, Niseema and Charley discuss why he calls MDMA "The Chemical of Connection."