Dr. Kashyap "Kash" Thimmaraju joins the show to talk about a new study on burnout, wellbeing, and flow state in security operations.

George K and George A talk to Kash about:

• New research using psychologically validated scales to measure burnout in cybersecurity professionals
• How "flow state" might be the key to better performance AND preventing burnout
• The impact of remote work and isolation on security teams
• Practical techniques security leaders can implement TODAY to support their teams

Protecting our human resources is just as important as protecting our digital ones.

Dr. Thimmaraju and his co-authors' research points to a significant gap in how we understand and support the mental wellbeing of security professionals. It's time to start changing that conversation.

Mentioned this episode:

• Human Performance in Cybersecurity Operations Paper: https://flowguard-institute.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Human-Performance-in-Security-Operations.pdf
• Human performance in cybersecurity survey: http://flowguard-institute.com/hpcs
• Flow Guard Institute: http://flowguard-institute.com