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Fresh starts are overrated. What actually changes us are the layers we’re willing to look at honestly.
This season, Five with Fry is narrowing its focus to one thing: conflict. Not the dramatic kind—the everyday moments where things get tense, words get awkward, and most of us either push through or shut down. After experimenting with different formats, the answer was clear: depth matters more than variety. Five minutes is enough if we use them well.
I’m working with a simple image to guide this shift: the palimpsest. Nothing starts from zero. Every argument you’ve had, every apology you rushed, every conversation you avoided leaves a trace. Those traces aren’t mistakes—they’re data. If you’re willing to read them, they tell you exactly where your patterns live and what needs to change.
Each season will run 11–12 short episodes, all built around practical conflict skills you can use immediately: how to start a hard conversation without cushioning it to death, how to separate impact from intent, how to set a boundary that actually holds, and how to repair when things go sideways. We’ll also talk about power and identity, because conflict never happens in a vacuum—and pretending it does makes things worse.
Some episodes will include guests answering one question: What’s a conflict that changed you for the better? Not to perform vulnerability, but to name the choices that mattered.
Take what you hear. Sit with it. Try it.
Growth lives on the other side of the conversation.
Don’t waste the conflict.
By Dr. Jen Fry5
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Fresh starts are overrated. What actually changes us are the layers we’re willing to look at honestly.
This season, Five with Fry is narrowing its focus to one thing: conflict. Not the dramatic kind—the everyday moments where things get tense, words get awkward, and most of us either push through or shut down. After experimenting with different formats, the answer was clear: depth matters more than variety. Five minutes is enough if we use them well.
I’m working with a simple image to guide this shift: the palimpsest. Nothing starts from zero. Every argument you’ve had, every apology you rushed, every conversation you avoided leaves a trace. Those traces aren’t mistakes—they’re data. If you’re willing to read them, they tell you exactly where your patterns live and what needs to change.
Each season will run 11–12 short episodes, all built around practical conflict skills you can use immediately: how to start a hard conversation without cushioning it to death, how to separate impact from intent, how to set a boundary that actually holds, and how to repair when things go sideways. We’ll also talk about power and identity, because conflict never happens in a vacuum—and pretending it does makes things worse.
Some episodes will include guests answering one question: What’s a conflict that changed you for the better? Not to perform vulnerability, but to name the choices that mattered.
Take what you hear. Sit with it. Try it.
Growth lives on the other side of the conversation.
Don’t waste the conflict.

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