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I had an insightful conversation with organizational design expert Joe Henry in this episode. Dive deep into the world of security teams and explore the crucial elements that elevate them to the next level.

Joe sheds light on the pivotal role of organizational design in shaping effective security teams. Together, we unpack the significance of fostering a robust culture within these teams, emphasizing its impact on overall performance and resilience.

From discussing the integral role of training to delving into strategies for organizational development, this episode uncovers vital insights and practical approaches to enhance security team effectiveness.

We also discuss the importance of customer centricity and how that focus can create fantastic value within your organization.

Tune in as we explore how a well-structured approach to organizational design can empower security teams, creating a stronger foundation for success in today's ever-evolving landscape of security challenges.

Let's go do great things!

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