In this episode of the Hewlett Packard Labs podcast, Dejan Milojicic goes deep into the world of VCSEL (Vertical-Cavity Surface-Emitting Lasers) photonics with Mike Tan. Mike, Hewlett Packard Labs Distinguished Technologist, talks about low cost optical solutions for HPE computers. Mike had an intriguing Odyssey by starting in HP Labs, then he was spun into Agilent, then he was part of the team that was moved to another company that became Avago, and he finally closed the loop by coming back to HP to lead the work on short distance optical links. Mike also discusses HP Culture, called HP Way.