In this deeply moving and vulnerable conversation, Malisa Hepner shares her raw, in-process journey through grief just nine days after the loss of her son, Jake. Speaking from the middle of the heartbreak—not hindsight—Malisa reflects on the surreal nature of tragedy, the immediate impact of grief on mental and physical health, and the complexities of navigating family dynamics while still learning how to breathe through each moment. She opens up about what it looks like to practice self-care, lean on community, and model healthy emotional expression for her family in real time. This conversation is not about having answers, but about allowing vulnerability, honoring memories as they arise, and learning—day by day—how meaning and love can exist alongside profound loss. A tender, honest offering for anyone grieving, supporting someone in grief, or learning how to sit with pain without trying to fix it.

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