In this episode, Malisa Hepner sits down with lymphatic health expert John Ossipinsky to explore how the lymphatic system may influence not only immune function and physical health, but also mental and emotional well-being. John explains the role lymph flow plays in clearing waste, supporting circulation, reducing physical stress on the body, and helping the body function more efficiently. Together, they discuss the connection between physical stagnation and how we feel mentally, as well as practical ways to support lymphatic flow through movement, breathing, hydration, and other everyday habits. This conversation offers a fascinating look at the body-mind connection and why supporting your lymphatic system may be an overlooked piece of overall wellness.

Pay attention to how your body feels when you're mentally foggy, emotionally heavy, or physically sluggish. Try supporting lymphatic flow with a few minutes of gentle movement, deep diaphragmatic breathing, stretching, or walking. Rather than treating mental and physical health as separate, begin noticing how changes in your body can influence your mood, energy, clarity, and overall sense of well-being.

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Host Malisa Hepner sits down with comedian and TV personality Paul Drayton for a candid conversation about his journey with undiagnosed ADHD and the ways impulsivity, humor, and alcohol shaped his life. Drawing from his new memoir, Ride – Or Die Trying, Paul shares how therapy and greater self-awareness helped him better understand his patterns, find healthier ways to cope, and become more comfortable in his own skin. Together, Malisa and Paul explore what can happen when we stop performing the version of ourselves we think the world wants and, as Paul poignantly describes it, finally begin "auditioning for the role" of ourselves.

Ask yourself: What role have I been auditioning for—and is it actually me? We can spend years trying to become the person we think will be accepted, successful, lovable, or enough. Consider one area of your life where you're still performing instead of simply being. What would it look like to stop auditioning for everyone else's version of you and start becoming more comfortable in your own skin? You don't have to become someone new. Maybe the role you were meant to play has been you all along.

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In this episode, Malisa Hepner sits down with Liana Morris to explore what it means to heal, create safety within yourself, and become your own best mother. Together, they discuss spirituality, personal growth, and the transformations that can emerge when life challenges us to reconnect with ourselves in deeper ways. This conversation explores learning to give yourself the safety, compassion, nurturing, and support you may have spent your life seeking outside of yourself—and how healing can become a journey of coming home to who you are.

Ask yourself: "What do I need from me today that I've been waiting for someone else to give me?" Choose one small way to offer yourself that care, reassurance, protection, or encouragement. Becoming your own best mother isn't about never needing others—it's about learning that the home you create for yourself within can be the safest place of all.

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Host, Malisa Hepner, sits with Margaret Eastman Smith, as she shares her journey from growing up in an international spiritual and moral movement (Moral Rearmament) to questioning what she was taught, exploring her identity, and finding love and purpose on her own terms. We explore how cultural and spiritual influences shape emotional health, the barriers we build along the way, and how self-awareness can help us reconnect with who we truly are.

Ask yourself: What parts of who I am were chosen by me, and what parts were handed to me? Notice one belief or expectation you're ready to question, and give yourself permission to decide what still belongs.

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In this episode, host Malisa Hepner sits down with Leslie Newan to explore her experiences with out-of-body travel and how they transformed her understanding of consciousness, embodiment, and spiritual growth.

Together, they explore the intersection of spirituality and psychology, the importance of staying grounded while exploring spiritual experiences, and how we can integrate deeper awareness into our everyday lives.

Take a few minutes to intentionally reconnect with your body. Notice your breath, physical sensations, and what's happening around you without trying to change anything. Spiritual growth isn't always about transcending the human experience—sometimes it's about becoming more fully present within it.

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In this episode, host, Malisa Hepner, sits with Bryan Blackmon as he shares his journey from addiction to sobriety and how he rebuilt his life through resilience, self-love, and consistent daily routines.

Bryan opens up about the mindset shifts that helped him transform his relationship with himself and why small, intentional choices can create lasting change. Now using his story to help others, he reminds us that our past doesn't have to define our future—and transformation often begins with simply choosing to show up for ourselves one day at a time.

Choose one small routine that supports the person you're becoming and commit to it this week. Each time you follow through, remind yourself: "I am someone who shows up for myself." Lasting change is often built through small promises we consistently keep.

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What if it's never too late to heal, reconnect with yourself, and become who you were always meant to be?

Host, Malisa Hepner, sits with Lena Fein as she shares her powerful journey of healing from childhood trauma and learning to live with greater vulnerability, authenticity, and self-love at 68. She opens up about the shame and emotional wounds she carried for years—and what changed when she began reconnecting with her heart instead of continuing to hide the parts of herself she had learned weren't acceptable.

Together, they explore how childhood experiences shape the way we see ourselves, why shame can keep us disconnected from our authentic selves, and what becomes possible when we stop rejecting the parts of ourselves that need compassion most.

Lena's story is a beautiful reminder that healing has no expiration date. Whether you're 28 or 68, you can begin releasing old stories, allowing yourself to be seen, and building a relationship with yourself rooted in acceptance rather than shame.

Notice one part of yourself you've learned to hide, judge, minimize, or feel ashamed of. Instead of immediately trying to change it, get curious about where that judgment came from. Ask yourself: "When did I learn that this part of me wasn't okay?". Then try replacing judgment with compassion: "What did this part of me need then—and what does it need from me now?"

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In this episode, clinical psychologist Shang Olsen explores the psychology behind rumination, overthinking, and repetitive negative thoughts—and why trying to control or eliminate your thoughts can sometimes keep you stuck in them.

Through the lens of metacognitive therapy, Shang explains how changing your relationship with your thoughts can help you break the rumination cycle, reduce mental distress, and stop giving every thought your attention. This conversation offers practical strategies for stepping out of overthinking and learning that you don't have to engage with everything your mind produces.

The next time you notice yourself caught in an overthinking loop, resist the urge to solve, analyze, or argue with the thought. Instead, notice that you're thinking and intentionally redirect your attention to what's happening around you. Ask yourself: Does this thought actually require my attention right now?

The goal isn't to make the thought disappear—it's to practice letting a thought exist without automatically following it down the rabbit hole. Over time, you can teach your brain that not every thought requires investigation.

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In this solo episode, Malisa Hepner reflects on identity, authenticity, astrology, and the strange in-between spaces that come with personal growth. From the intensity of eclipse energy to recognizing old versions of herself that no longer quite fit, she explores what it means to consciously participate in who you're becoming without turning growth into another performance.

Malisa shares what she's learning about honoring your actual capacity while still making room for expansion, allowing your identity to evolve, and recognizing the difference between forcing yourself into a "better" version of you and becoming more deeply aligned with who you already are.

Because transformation isn't always about doing more. Sometimes it's about noticing what no longer feels true—and giving yourself permission to live differently.

Think about the version of yourself you've been operating as lately and ask: Does this identity still fit me, or am I maintaining it because it's familiar?

Then identify one belief, expectation, habit, or way of showing up that belongs to an older version of you. You don't have to reinvent your entire life today. Choose one small place where you can respond as the person you're becoming instead of automatically repeating who you've been.

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What does someone really need when they're hurting? In this episode, therapist Malisa Hepner welcomes back friend of the show, Elaynie Painter, to explore why our instinct to fix, solve, or offer advice can sometimes create more distance—and what it looks like to truly be present instead.

Together they discuss emotional safety, self-awareness, nervous system regulation, and how learning to stay with someone's emotions (instead of rushing to change them) can transform your relationships. Whether you're supporting a grieving friend, navigating conflict with your partner, or learning to be more emotionally available, this conversation offers practical tools to help you show up with greater compassion and connection.

The next time someone shares something painful, pause before responding.Notice if an urge to fix arises, take a breath, and choose presence over problem-solving. Feeling understood often heals more than being given answers.

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