In this honest and emotionally grounded conversation, therapist and host Malisa Hepner sits down again with Holli Howard, trauma-informed life coach, gentle guide, and founder of Positive Living Coaching, to explore the layered experience of grief, anger, and personal growth. Together, they unpack the role of vulnerability, the weight of the labels we carry, and how our inner narratives shape our emotional reality.

Malisa and Holli discuss the neuroscience behind habit formation, the impact of expectations on our well-being, and why self-compassion is essential when navigating grief and change. This conversation is a reminder that healing isn't about perfection—it's about awareness, softness, and learning how to meet yourself where you are.

Pay attention to one label you've given yourself (e.g., "I'm too emotional," "I'm not strong enough"). Gently question it: "Is this a fact, or is this a story I learned?"

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