NMCADV Speaking Of Podcast

This week we are speaking with Ed Gondolf. Ed will share his rich history of his work in the movement to end domestic violence by focusing his research and work with those who perpetrate the intimate partner abuse.

Curriculum Vita

Edward W. Gondolf, EdD, MPH is the former director of Research for the Mid-Atlantic Addiction Research and Training Institute (MARTI; 1990-2011), where he conducted grant-funded research on the response of the courts, mental health practitioners, alcohol treatment clinicians, and batterer programs to domestic violence. He is best known as the lead investigator of the multi-site evaluation of batterer intervention programs funded by the Centers for Disease Control from 1994 to 2001. In 2005, he completed a four-year clinical trial of specialized counseling for African-American men arrested for domestic violence, under a grant from the National Institute of Justice, and a comparison study of case management with similar men under a grant from the Pennsylvania Commission on Crime and Delinquency. He most recently evaluated the effectiveness of supplemental mental health treatment for domestic violence offenders under a four-year NIJ grant.

Gondolf is also professor emeritus of Sociology at Indiana University of Pennsylvania. During 1991 to 1994, he was the founding president of the Domestic Abuse Counseling Center in Pittsburgh. From 1988 to 1992, Gondolf served as a research fellow at the Psychiatric Institute and Clinic, University of Pittsburgh Medical School, and as clinical consultant to the Domestic Relations Clinic, Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Pittsburgh. He was research consultant to the National Resource Center on Domestic Violence funded by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services in 1993-96, and other current research projects.

Gondolf has authored 10 books on wife abuse, including Men Who Batter: An Integrated Approach to Stopping Wife Abuse (Learning Publications, 1985), Battered Women as Survivors: An Alternative to Treating Learned Helplessness (Lexington Books, 1988), Psychiatric Response to Family Violence: Identifying and Confronting neglected Danger (Lexington Books, 1990), Assessing Woman Battering in Mental Health Services (Sage Publications, 1998), and Batterer Intervention Systems: Issues, Outcomes and Recommendations (Sage Publications, 2002), as well as over 140 research and clinical articles on men who batter, domestic violence in general, and community development.

His most recent books are the critical research review The Future of Batterer Programs: Reassessing Evidence-Based Practice (Northeastern University Press, 2012), and a qualitative summary of practitioner perspectives on the field, Gender-Based Perspectives on Batterer Programs: Program Leaders on History, Approach, Research, and Development (Lexington Books, 2015).

Gondolf has achieved a national reputation in the field of domestic violence that has brought numerous invitations for research, writing, and guest lectures. He has presented numerous invited lectures on the effectiveness of batterer programs, and been quoted or cited in a variety of prominent national newspapers and magazines: Scientific American, Esquire, Psychiatric News, USA Today, New York Times Magazine, Chicago Tribune, L.A. Times, Washington Post, Christian Science Monitor, Pittsburgh Press, Philadelphia Inquirer, Seattle Times, San Francisco Chronicle, Dallas Morning News, Time Magazine, Ms. Magazine, Bride's Magazine, Mademoiselle Magazine, and Changes Magazine.

Books by Edward W. Gondolf

Articles referenced during the interview:
The Case Against Anger Control for Batterers
Evaluating batterer counseling programs: A difficult taskshowing some effects and implications
The Evidence-Based Practice Movement:Contributions,Controversies, and Recommendations
Research Evidence on Batterer Program Effectiveness
The weak evidence for batterer program alternatives

This week on Speaking Of, we are speaking with Lisa Nitsch. Lisa will share the rich history of her work in the movement to end domestic violence by working with those who perpetrate the violence and his experience being a part of the development of the Coordinated Community Response.

Lisa Nitsch, MSW

Chief Operating Officer

House of Ruth Maryland

Community Engagement Center

2521 North Charles Street

Baltimore, Maryland 21218

[email protected], (443) 569-0449

Lisa is responsible for House of Ruth Maryland’s intervention services for abusive partners, the Training Institute, which coordinates professional development for staff, external community education, and professional technical assistance, as well as agency-wide initiatives. She has been with House of Ruth Maryland since 1998 and has advanced through a variety of positions, including overseeing the agency’s Clinical Services for survivors and their children, the Teen Initiative, and the Developmental Childcare Center.

Lisa is Vice-Chair of Baltimore City’s Domestic Violence Coordinating Council, a member of the City’s Domestic Violence High Risk Task Force, and an appointed member of the Maryland Governor’s Family Violence Council. For several years, she was on the Board of the National Resource Center on Domestic Violence, served as Vice President of the national organization, Women in Fatherhood, and as Co-Chair of Maryland’s Abuse Intervention Collaborative. Lisa has been on training teams for notable organizations such as Futures Without Violence, Battered Women’s Justice Project, Women of Color Network, Institute on Domestic Violence in the African American Community, and the National District Attorneys Association. She has served as an advisor to the United States White House, the National Institutes of Health, the United States Department of Justice’s Office on Violence Against Women, and the United States Department of Health & Human Services’ Administration for Children & Families.

Lisa is most proud of being recognized as a field leader in Ed Gondolf’s 2015 book, “Gender-Based Perspectives on Batterer Programs”, her 2013 award from the Center for Urban Families for her “years of dedication in serving Baltimore City’s most vulnerable citizens”, and the Special Day of Honor designated for her by Mayor Nagin in 2007, for “promoting positive outcomes and providing support to the fathers of New Orleans” following the devastation of hurricane Katrina.

Her current, but ever-changing, interests include developing programs for abusive partners within disinvested communities that address the dual experience of both holding privilege and being oppressed, increasing access to learning tools for service providers globally, and exploring community-based accountability models that function outside of the criminal legal system.

Lisa’s roots run deep in her hometown of Baltimore City, Maryland, where she has helped raise two of her nieces and continues to proudly live with her husband of more than 20 years.

This week we are speaking with Michael Paymar.Michael will share the rich history of his work in the movement to end domestic violence by working with those who perpetrate the violence and his experiencebeing a part of the development of the Coordinated Community Response.

Michael Paymar, MPA

Michael Paymar is the executive director of Education for Critical Thinking an organization committed to ending gender-based violence and increasing womenin law enforcement. He worked at the Duluth Domestic Abuse Intervention Project (DAIP) and the Battered Women’s Justice Project (BWJP) for over thirty years.

In 2014 in Geneva Switzerland, Michael accepted the Gold Policy Award (celebrating the best global-policy on ending violence against women and girls) presented by theWorld Futures Council, United Nations Women and the Inter-Parliamentary Union. The award was in recognition of the Duluth Model, its founder the late Ellen Pence, organizers at the DAIP, leaders of the criminal justice system, lawenforcement, battered women’s programs and human service providers that contributed to the success of the model.

Michael has conducted training on the implementation of the Coordinated Community Response(CCR) for effective interventions in domestic violence cases in Montenegro, Tajikistan, Republic of Georgia, Morocco, Slovenia, Hungary, China, Scotland, Israel, Sweden, Ireland, Japan, Iceland, Canada, Switzerland, and throughoutthe United States including Guam and Puerto Rico.   

Michael and Ellen Pence co-authored the book Education Groups for Men who Batter: The Duluth Model, thecurriculum Creating a Process of Change for Men Who Batter; one of the most widely used treatment programs for IPV offenders. They also wrote and produced the award-winning documentary With Impunity: Men andGender Violence.

Michael is the author of the book Violent No More:Helping Men End Domestic Abuse—now in its 3rd edition. This self-help book and the accompanying workbook is widely used in offender groups, by counselors who work with IPV offenders, abusive men who want to change, andwomen seeking to understand the dynamics of battering.   

Michael served on the Duluth City Council for eight years and in the Minnesota House of Representatives for 18 years. In the Legislature, Michael chaired the Public Safety Committee which had financial oversight over the Department of Public Safety, Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, Department of Corrections, Department of Human Rights and crime victim programs. He was a leader in combating sex-trafficking, funding crime victim programs, prison reform, human rights and gun violence prevention.

Michael earned a Masters Degree in Public Administration from Hamline University and a Bachelor of Arts Degree from the College of St. Scholastica.

Video: Michael Paymar, Battered Women’s Movement Leader

This week we are speaking with Yesenia Delgado. Yesenia will share the rich history of her work in the movement to end domestic violence by working with those who perpetrate the violence.

In 2021, Yesenia worked with Border Servant Corps, a nonprofit dedicated to supporting immigrants and refugees while promoting social justice along the U.S. - Mexico border. July of 2022, she began her career at La Casa, Inc., a nonprofit organization providing support and services to victims of domestic violence. She started as a compliance monitor for their Behavior Intervention Program, which aims to address and reduce domestic violence by working with individuals who perpetrate domestic violence. Four months later, Yesenia stepped up to the challenge and expanded her role to facilitate La Casa’s first Spanish-speaking BIP group. In July of 2023, she was promoted to supervisor of the program.

This week we are speaking with Paul Kivel, social justice educator, activist and writer. Paul will share his rich history of his work in social justice.

PAUL KIVEL is a social justice educator, activist and writer whose work spans five decades in community education, engaged parenthood, political writing, and practical activism.

Kivel works for collective healing, transformation and justice. He asks us “How can we live and work together to nurture each individual and create a multicultural society based on love, caring, justice, and interdependence with all living things?”

Kivel was a co-founder of the Oakland Men’s Project and a leader in the anti-violence movement developing resources to work with men against sexism and male violence.  He is also part of the group that started SURJ—Showing Up for Racial Justice and a leader in the anti-racist movement developing resources for white people working for racial, economic and gender justice. 

Kivel’s most recent books are a revised, updated 4th edition of Uprooting Racism: How White People Can Work for Racial Justice and Living in the Shadow of the Cross.https://paulkivel.com/  https://christianhegemony.org/

If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, there is help available. Please call The Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or visit their website on a safe device at www.thehotline.org. Or find your nearest New Mexico domestic violence program at https://www.nmcadv.org/find-nm-resources. 

If you are looking for an intervention program, click this link to see a listing for most States in the USA: https://www.biscmi.org/offender-intervention-programs-listing-by-state/. You are not alone.

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This week we are speaking with Aaron Newman Program Manager of the BIP at Family Crisis Center. Aaron will share the rich history of his work in the movement to end domestic violence by working with those who perpetrate the violence.

Aaron has spent the majority of his career serving his community.  Aaron began serving his community when he enlisted in the United States Marine Corps two months after graduating High School.  While serving in the Marine Corps Aaron gained the skills and traits to become a compassionate leader, instructor, and mentor with the desire to help others.  Aaron continued to serve his community at his local senior center where he served and advocated for older adults to enrich and improve their quality of life, which led Aaron to become an Elder Abuse Advocate at the Family Crisis Center.  While at the Family Crisis Center Aaron like many others working in the Domestic Violence field serves and advocates in multiple areas and capacities for those affected by abuse and violence.  Aaron now facilitates Battering Intervention groups for both men and women.  Aaron’s desire to serve and help others continues as he educates and serves those in his groups with compassion and empathy. 

If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, there is help available. Please call The Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or visit their website on a safe device at www.thehotline.org. Or find your nearest New Mexico domestic violence program at https://www.nmcadv.org/find-nm-resources. 

If you are looking for an intervention program, click this link to see a listing for most States in the USA: https://www.biscmi.org/offender-intervention-programs-listing-by-state/. You are not alone.

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Join us this week for Men Stopping Violence - Speaking Of: Men Stopping Violence! Ulester Douglas, Dick Bathrick, and Greg Loughlin will share their rich history of the Social Justice work provided by Men Stopping Violence in the movement to end domestic violence.

Ulester Douglas is a social justice advocate, licensed psychotherapist, former executive, and a nationally recognized leader in the movement to end violence against women.

Mr. Douglas has provided consultation, training, and keynote presentations in 40-plus states, Europe and the Caribbean. For his advocacy to end domestic violence, Douglas was honored by Lifetime Television for Women, the National Network to End Domestic Violence, the Ford Motor Company, and the City of Atlanta. He has also received numerous awards including a National Institute of Mental Health Fellowship, the National District Attorneys Association’s Stephen L. Von Riesen Lecturer of Merit Award, the National Black Herstory Task Force’s Comrade Salute Award, the Georgia Coalition Against Domestic Violence Collaborate Award, and the Deborah C. McDorman Memorial Award for “Exemplary Humanitarian Efforts and Advocacy to End Domestic Violence.” In 2010 Mr. Douglas was invited to the White House to help commemorate the launch of the Obama administration’s domestic violence initiatives. And in 2015 he was appointed to the Georgia Commission on Family Violence by then-Governor Nathen Deal.

He has authored and co-authored articles and curricula on family violence and other social justice issues including the book chapter “Working With African American Men Who Batter: A Community-Centered Approach to Prevention and Intervention.”

As a consultant and trainer, Dick Bathrick brings analysis and practice regarding gender race and class to promote transformational change in individuals, organizations and communities. Bathrick co-founded Men Stopping Violence (MSV) in 1982, and he brings more than three decades of experience in progressive social change to the work of ending violence against women. 

As part of MSV’s national training team, he has co-led trainings for a variety of organizations, including the National Council of Churches, the US. Army and U.S. Marines, the National Association of Secondary School Principals, The National College of District Attorneys, and the American Association of Marriage and Family Therapists.

He is the author or co-author of a number of articles including, “⁠Deconstructing Male Violence Against Women: The Men Stopping Violence Community Accountability Model⁠” (2008, Violence Against Women, Sage Publications); “⁠How Do You Know Your Batterer Program Works?⁠ (2007, Domestic Violence Report); and “Male Privilege and Male Violence: Patriarchy’s Root and Branch” (1990, The Crossing Press). He has co-authored several curricula, including the manuals Men at Work: Building Safe Communities and Men Stopping Violence: A Program for Change.

He also authored the book “⁠WE ARE THE WORK, The Making of Men Stopping Violence⁠” 

Greg Loughlin is an Atlanta-based writer, trainer, facilitator, and policy advocate with over 20 years of experience engaging men and communities to prevent male violence against women.He is an instructor at Georgia State University’s School of Social Work and a consultant with the Interrupting Violence in Youth and Young Adults (IVYY) Project at Grady Health System. Previous leadership positions include Director of Strategic Initiatives at Men Stopping Violence; Executive Director of the Georgia Commission on Family Violence; and Co-Coordinator of the Georgia Domestic Violence Fatality Review Project.

In 2020, he co-authored a chapter on preventing male sexual violence published in the Handbook of Interpersonal Violence and Abuse Across the Lifespan by Springer Cham.

He invites you to connect with him at ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-loughlin/⁠

This week we are speaking with Dr. Lisa Young Larance. Lisa will share the rich history of her work in the movement to end domestic violence by working with Women Who Use Force and Abuse Intervention Programs.

Lisa Young Larance, PhD, LCSW, LMSW, is a distinguished practitioner-researcher with wide-ranging clinical, community, and prison-based practice experience. Her direct service work includes providing individual trauma-informed therapy, co-facilitating intervention groups, and program design and implementation. Dr. Young Larance’s macro-social work practice is rooted in meeting organizational and community needs while serving violence-involved families. She is known globally as an anti-violence intervention pioneer who created foundational and innovative community-based programming for diverse women with domestic and sexual violence survivorship histories brought to systems attention for their use of non-fatal force [See the Vista Program and curriculum (JBWS, Morris County, New Jersey, USA) and the RENEW Program (Catholic Social Services of Washtenaw County, Ann Arbor, Michigan, U.S.A.)]. She also co-developed and implemented Meridians for Incarcerated Women serving women housed in Michigan Department of Corrections facilities. Dr. Young Larance’s extensive consulting work includes the New Mexico Coalition Against Domestic Violence (U.S.A.), Harmony House’s Nurturing Hearts Violence Prevention Program (Hong Kong, China), the +SHIFT Program (Victoria, Australia), and the United States Air Force’s Family Advocacy Program (Global). Her leading-edge scholarship focuses primarily on understanding systems-involved women’s legal, child protection, and antiviolence intervention experiences. Dr. Young Larance investigates how women’s institutional contact can both replicate intimate harm and facilitate positive change. Her work emphasizes the strategies women employ to navigate surveilling systems and their agency in healing from trauma while creating community. She is widely published, most notably in Affilia: Feminist Inquiry in Social Work, BMJ Open, International Social Work, Journal of Interpersonal Violence, Psychology of Violence, and Violence Against Women. Her forthcoming book, Broken: Women’s stories of intimate and institutional harm and repair, was published by the University of California Press and available August 6, 2024. Dr. Young Larance is an assistant professor at Bryn Mawr College’s Graduate School of Social Work and Social Research.

If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, there is help available. Please call The Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or visit their website on a safe device at www.thehotline.org. Or find your nearest New Mexico domestic violence program at https://www.nmcadv.org/find-nm-resources. 

If you are looking for an intervention program, click this link to see a listing for most States in the USA: https://www.biscmi.org/offender-intervention-programs-listing-by-state/. You are not alone.

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Erin House's article on Women Who Use Force: https://www.biscmi.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/wwuferinhouse.pdfMeridians curriculum: https://www.batteringinterventiontraining.com/26-2/
Ellen Pence video from the BISC-MI Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orZM13MakVMPractitioner Panel: Practical Complexities and Considerations of Providing Groups for Court-Ordered Women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_iitjb7HnUWhen She Hits Him (National Conference): https://www.biscmi.org/wshh/

Lisa Young Larance website: https://www.lisayounglarance.com/Lisa Young Larance Book: https://www.ucpress.edu/books/broken/paper

This week we are speaking with Melissa Scaia. Melissa will share the rich history of her work in the movement to end domestic violence by working within multiple arenas including Abuse Intervention Programs, Women Who Use Force, The Coordinated Community Response, Supervised Visitation Programs, and Survivor Services.

Melissa (Petrangelo) Scaia has worked to address gender-based violence for nearly 25 years locally in Minnesota, nationally, and globally.  She is committed to continuing to be a practitioner in work that she trains on internationally related to domestic violence/coercive control.  In Minnesota, she works part-time for Domestic Abuse Project as an Intervention/Prevention Therapist for their men’s intervention program and as the Systems Advocate Coordinator of the Minneapolis Coordinated Community Response (CCR) to domestic violence.  She works internationally as part of the Global Alliance for Women’s Safety and Equality (GAWSE).  As part of GAWSE, she works for UN Women to provide training and technical assistance, currently in Greece, Moldova, and the Asia-Pacific region.  She provides training and technical assistance on addressing women’s use of violence in a CCR and in non-violence programs as co-founder of Domestic Violence Turning Points. She co-wrote a curriculum and videos for working with perpetrators as fathers entitled, Addressing Fatherhood with Men Who Batter.  She is the former Director of International Training at Global Rights for Women, co-founder of Pathways to Family Peace, and former executive director of Domestic Abuse Intervention Programs (DAIP), also known as “the Duluth Model.”  Before working in Duluth, she was an advocate and the executive director of Advocates for Family Peace (AFFP) for 17 years, a local domestic violence advocacy program.  She wrote her master's thesis on the effects of domestic violence on children and wrote her doctoral dissertation proposal on addressing the safety needs of adult victims of domestic violence and their children in supervised visitation centers. Recently, she authored Safe Consultations with Survivors of Violence Against Women and Girls, a UN Women global guidance on how to conduct focus groups and interviews with survivors.  She serves on the steering committee for the US’s National Network of Abuse Intervention Programs, where she was also recently given the COMPASS award for her work, research, and innovation related to her work on addressing women’s use of violence.  She has also served as a National Advisory Committee Member for Law & Order: SVU actress Mariska Hargitay’s Joyful Heart Foundation for survivor-based healing.  She has conducted assessments and research on topics related to domestic violence:  1) women’s use of violence; 2) using videoconference software to conduct men’s batter intervention programming (BIP); 3) Minneapolis police response to domestic violence; and 4) a needs assessment on North Dakota’s response to domestic violence.  She has also testified/consulted as an expert witness on domestic violence/coercive control in criminal and civil court cases since 2006.

Contact Information:

[email protected]

+01-218-969-3498 – phone/text/WhatsApp

Melissa Petrangelo Scaia – Facebook/Instagram and Linked In

@MelissaScaia – X (Twitter)

www.domesticviolenceexpert.net
If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, there is help available. Please call The Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or visit their website on a safe device at www.thehotline.org. Or find your nearest New Mexico domestic violence program at https://www.nmcadv.org/find-nm-resources. 

If you are looking for an intervention program, click this link to see a listing for most States in the USA: https://www.biscmi.org/offender-intervention-programs-listing-by-state/. You are not alone.

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This week we are speaking with Captain Eric Threlkeld. Eric will share the rich history of his work in the movement to end domestic violence by working within Law Enforcement primarily in New Mexico and abroad and how survivor voices and their histories have been and are his mentors.

For most of the last 20 years, Captain Eric Threlkeld has focused much of his efforts on advising police and community members on domestic violence investigations and community-based approaches to protecting victims and their children.  

Captain Threlkeld spent seven years as a police officer and police adviser in Europe with the United Nations and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe in Kosovo, North Macedonia, and Armenia. Some notable accomplishments in the Balkans include developing the United Nations Mission in Kosovo Police Domestic Violence Unit, implementing a police bicycle patrol unit for the University of Pristina in Kosovo, and the first Community Oriented Police Team in The Republic of North Macedonia.

Captain Threlkeld has lectured and facilitated training on domestic violence in many communities, nationally and internationally, and is a District Court-recognized subject matter expert on the signs and symptoms of non-fatal strangulation and domestic violence.    

Captain Threlkeld is a graduate of the FBI National Academy Class 281 and has a Master of Public Safety degree from the University of Virginia. Currently, Captain Threlkeld leads the Eddy County Sheriff’s Office Detective Division. 

If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, there is help available. Please call The Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or visit their website on a safe device at ⁠⁠www.thehotline.org⁠⁠. Or find your nearest New Mexico domestic violence program at ⁠⁠https://www.nmcadv.org/find-nm-resources⁠⁠. 

If you are looking for an intervention program, click this link to see a listing for most States in the USA: ⁠⁠https://www.biscmi.org/offender-intervention-programs-listing-by-state/⁠⁠. You are not alone.

Love our conversations? Make sure to subscribe, rate, and share our podcast. You can submit questions and feedback to [email protected].