For the last 20 years, digital marketing had one goal: drag a human across a "threshold", onto your website, so you could control the message and sell the product.

In 2026, the threshold is gone.

In this episode, Jono Alderson argues that we have entered the era of "Marketing to Machines." We are no longer optimizing for clicks; we are optimizing for the AI agents that intermediate the web.

We discuss why 90% of websites are now "Zombies" (technically online but functionally dead), why AI models treat marketing fluff like an allergen, and why the future of SEO isn't about meta tags, it's about "Upstream Engineering."

In this episode, we cover:

• [00:00] The Death of the Threshold: Why the era of "interrupting humans to get them to your site" is over.
• [02:24] The Surface-less Web: Why your brand is no longer just your domain, but an aggregation of everything said about you on the web (Reddit, YouTube, 2013 microsites).
• [06:52] The "Zombie Web" Theory: Why "commodity content" (like generic dentist blogs) is worthless to an LLM that has already memorized the facts.
• [11:05] The Machine Immune System: Why AI models view persuasive copywriting and sales fluff as "noise" or hallucinations to be filtered out.
• [16:40] The Incoherence Penalty: How machines spot the gap between your marketing claims ("We love customers") and your reality (bad Reddit reviews).
• [20:30] The llms.txt Trap: Why creating a separate "agent-friendly" version of your site won't work (and why machines won't trust it).
• [22:50] MCP (Model Context Protocol): Is this the future of how websites communicate?
• [28:14] Upstream Engineering: The new SEO. Why you need to optimize your return policy, logistics, and customer service instead of your title tags.
• [33:05] The Timeline: The best and worst-case scenarios for the web in the next 5 years.
• [38:39] How to Survive 2026: One final piece of advice for optimizers.

Links & Resources:

• Connect with Jono: jonoalderson.com
• Follow Jono on LinkedIn

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If 2025 felt like a constant, high-pitched ringing in your ears, you aren't alone. 

We call it "Digital Tinnitus", the exhausting result of two years of AI hype, "pivot or die" mandates, and confident mediocrity.

In this 2025 finale, let's shut off the noise.

We look back at why "Fatigue" was the word of the year, and why the crash of the hype cycle is actually the best news for serious professionals. Sani breaks down why Deep Work is the only antidote to the chaos and reveals the massive strategic shift coming to No Hacks in 2026.

The internet is changing. We are moving from an Attention Economy to a Utility Economy. And next year, we focus on one thing only: The Non-Human User.

In this episode, we cover:

• The Hangover: Why 2025 broke us, and why the silence of 2026 is a gift.
• Deep Work vs. Shallow Hacks: Why "Vibe Coding" is a trap and true craftsmanship is the only moat left.
• The 82:1 Prediction: Palo Alto Networks predicts 82 AI agents for every 1 human online. What does that mean for your website?
• The 2026 Mission: Announcing the sole focus for next year: Optimizing the Human Web for Non-Human Users.

Links:

• Connect with Sani on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/slobodanmanic/
• Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://nohacks.substack.com/

See you in 2026.

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The ground beneath the digital marketing industry is shifting. For decades, the mantra was simple: optimize for traffic, measure clicks, and track conversions. But with the rise of Generative AI, Large Language Models (LLMs), and Answer Engines, that rulebook is obsolete. In this powerful episode, I sit down with Joe Doveton to discuss the urgent reality facing every brand that relies on web traffic.

We dive into the phenomenon Joe calls the "Crocodile Mouth", the unsettling visual trend where brands maintain high search impressions but see clicks vanish, a direct result of zero-click searches. With the proliferation of platforms like TikTok, Reddit, and various generative engines, we discuss why the Google monopoly on the customer journey is over, and how users can now move from the awareness stage to purchasing a product without ever visiting a Google property. This episode is a wake-up call for marketers still clinging to outdated KPIs.

Joe introduces the new alphabet soup of optimization, GEO (Generative Engine Optimization), AEO (Answer Engine Optimization), and LLMO (Large Language Model Optimization). Crucially, we explore what this means for your analytics. If traffic and conversion rate are "lousy metrics", what should you measure? Joe reveals emerging metrics like Visibility within LLMs and competitive positioning. Most importantly, we agree that this "Wild West" era is finally killing all the outdated SEO hacks, forcing brands back to the core long-term strategy: writing useful content and focusing on the customer experience.

About the Guest

Joe Doveton is an experienced digital strategist, consultant, and speaker focused on the intersection of AI, search, and customer experience. With a background that includes working in advertising and a deep understanding of Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO), Joe is now pioneering tools and strategies for the Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) space. He is the founder of GEO Jet Pack, a platform designed to extract and visualize entities from content to help brands gain visibility in LLM responses - a critical new metric for the AI era.

What You'll Learn

• The difference between traditional SEO and the new acronyms: GEO, AEO, and LLMO.
• What the "Crocodile Mouth" is and why it confirms the end of the reliance on clicks.
• Why the old marketing KPIs, specifically web traffic and conversion rate—are now "lousy metrics" for measuring success.
• The new metrics emerging for the middle of the funnel, such as Visibility within LLMs and competitive position within prompt responses.
• Why the entire AI shift proves that long-term SEO success is still about being useful, interesting, and trustworthy (EEAT).
• Why the current AI era is killing all the old SEO hacks and discouraging tactics like content farming.
• How brands like Google are undermining their own profitable ad business by integrating AI Overviews.
• The vision of the Semantic Web and why the current structure of websites is inherently ill-suited for machine consumption.

Guest Contact:

• Joe Doveton's website
• Joe Doveton on LinkedIn

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There is a new user on the internet. It doesn't have eyes, it reads code, and it has zero tolerance for bad UX.

In this episode, I sit down with Jes Scholz (SEO Futurist & Marketing Consultant) to discuss the "Great Correction" coming to our industry. We talk about why a decade of obsessing over short-term metrics has "corrupted" brand marketing, and why AI is finally forcing us to fix the fundamentals we’ve ignored for too long.

Jes explains why AI agents are abandoning websites with messy HTML, why "entity optimization" is the real key to future visibility, and why the popular tactic of spamming Reddit to influence LLMs is a ticking time bomb for your brand.

Topics Covered:

• Why short-term metrics broke modern marketing (and how to fix it).
• The "New User": How to optimize for AI agents that read code, not screens.
• Why "trash" code and interstitial popups are fatal for AI discovery.
• The "Reddit Spam" Rant: Why trying to hack AI will destroy your brand reputation.
• The #1 skill AI cannot replace in 2026.

Timestamps: 

00:00 - Intro 

00:02:07 - How Short-Term Metrics "Corrupted" Brand Marketing 

00:03:59 - Why Marketers Must Relearn to Work Without Perfect Metrics 

00:08:00 - AI Agents: Why They Fail on Bad UX & Messy HTML 

00:17:52 - Beyond the Website: Why Entity Optimization is Key for AI 

00:21:14 - Why Spamming Reddit to Influence AI Will Destroy Your Brand 

00:27:23 - Final Advice: The #1 Skill to Keep & The #1 Habit to Drop

About the Guest: Jes Scholz is a global digital strategist and SEO futurist. Formerly the International Digital Director for Ringier, she has led digital transformation across 140+ media and e-commerce brands in Europe, Africa, and Asia. She is now an independent consultant helping enterprises adapt to the AI era.

Connect with Jes:

• Website: jesscholz.com
• Newsletter: SEO Brief on Substack
• LinkedIn: Jes Scholz

Connect with Sani:

• LinkedIn: Slobodan (Sani) Manić
• Website: nohackspod.com
• Newsletter: No Hacks on Substack

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The promise is irresistible: generate anything you want, instantly, with zero effort. We’ve been told that AI is the great democratizer, but in this episode, we argue it’s actually the most catastrophic lie of the digital age.

The truth is, this endless supply of cheap, fast content is fundamentally destroying value and driving the collapse of the internet as we know it. We're not seeing liberation; we're seeing an intellectual lazy river that's turning the web into a toxic digital swamp.

In this episode, we break down the three deadly flaws of the zero-effort economy:

• The Dunning-Kruger loop: Why amassing "zero knowledge" before hitting 'generate' is so dangerous. We look at why amateurs, armed with powerful tools, lack the expertise to judge quality, creating a flood of confidently flawed content that only "kinda looks good."
• The meaning crisis & The Betty Crocker dilemma: If creation is instant, cheap, and disposable, why should you care? We dive into the psychology of effort and the IKEA Effect to explain why platforms had to force you to "add the human egg." The only way to save your work is to deliberately reintroduce friction.
• The platforms are killing at (the enshittification): This isn't just an accident; it’s calculated decay. We expose how platforms are actively boosting AI Slop (low-quality, high-volume garbage) to maximize their profits, directly crowding out genuine human creators. We reference Cory Doctorow's essential concept of Enshittification to explain how the entire internet is being systematically poisoned.
• The final warning: What happens when we keep chasing "more, more, more low-effort shit"? The existential threat of model collapse, where AI trains on its own garbage, fundamentally poisoning the source of all knowledge and accelerating us toward a "dead internet."

The only way to fight back is to choose effort over ease.

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As the world rushes to adopt AI, what if the most future-proof skill isn't mastering the machine, but mastering human connection? In this episode, Sani sits down with Brent Csutoras, a true OG of the internet who has been a core member of the Reddit community since 2006.

Brent argues that the unfiltered, honest, and often chaotic conversations happening on Reddit, a platform he calls "the real world online", provide the ultimate blueprint for the future of brand building. So many brands fail on Reddit because they treat it like a traditional advertising channel, only to be torn apart by a community that values authenticity above all else. Brent breaks down his "anti-marketer" playbook, using incredible stories, from the REI AMA that turned from a PR disaster into a masterclass in accountability to a beef jerky company that sold $30,000 worth of product from a single, honest conversation, to illustrate his points.

If you are professional trying to navigate the future of digital marketing, you need to hear this. Brent makes a compelling case that we are not in year 21 of the old internet; we are in "Year One" of a completely new era , where solving real human problems has replaced the old hacks of chasing keywords and gaming algorithms.

Guest

Our guest is Brent Csutoras, a renowned Reddit thought leader and marketing strategist. As the Founder of OGS Media, he has spent nearly two decades helping Fortune 100 brands, scrappy startups, and skeptical CMOs navigate one of the most misunderstood platforms online.

In addition to his deep expertise in Reddit, Brent has been a Managing Partner at Search Engine Journal for over a decade, helping to shape the voice of the digital marketing industry. He is a self-described "futurist at heart, with a bias for action", constantly drawn to the edge of what's next in search, social, and AI-driven discovery. His core philosophy is simple but profound: help brands stop marketing at people and start connecting with them.

Key Takeaways

• Community is a networking event, not a megaphone
• Trust is the only metric that matters
• Solve problems, don't chase keywords
• Your new job is to train your AI assistant

Links and Resources

• Connect with Brent: The best way to reach Brent is on his LinkedIn Profile.
• OGS Media: Learn more about Brent's Reddit community engagement company at ogsmedia.com.
• Search Engine Journal: One of the leading online marketing publications where Brent is a managing partner.
• ZipTie.AI: The project Brent is working on to map online conversations.
• Book Mention: Contagious: Why Things Catch On by Jonah Berger.
• Book Mention: Stumbling on Happiness by Daniel Gilbert.
• Book Mention: The Advice Trap by Michael Bungay Stanier.
• Brand Mention: Sonos, a brand Brent highlights for its excellent community engagement on Reddit.

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What do you do when you feel like you've swallowed an elephant? For Bryan Eisenberg, a pioneer of Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO), that feeling was both a personal crisis and the inspiration for his new book.

In this deep and insightful conversation, Bryan takes us on a journey through his 30-year career, from the earliest days of the internet to the current age of AI. He reveals the one-word secret that has guided his success with brands like Google and Disney: Empathy.

Bryan explains why messaging will always be more powerful than any tool, why "facts tell, but stories sell," and how he recently watched a single press release instantly become the "truth" for AI models like ChatGPT. If you're a marketer, founder, or anyone feeling overwhelmed by the noise of the modern world, this episode is a masterclass in focusing on the fundamentals that truly matter.

In this episode, you will learn:

• The powerful personal story behind Bryan's new book, "I Think I Swallowed an Elephant".
• Why empathy is the single most important thread in a successful marketing career.
• How Bryan and his team pioneered the concept and term "Conversion Rate Optimization".
• Why messaging is the most impactful variable you can test, far more than tools or design.
• A fascinating case study on how a press release can immediately influence AI-generated search results.
• The essential skills marketers must cultivate to stay relevant and thrive in the age of AI.
• Why real-world community and connection are becoming more critical than ever.

Episode Links

• Book: I Think I Swallowed an Elephant on Amazon
• Podcast: The Rock Solid Round Rock Podcast
• Connect with Bryan Eisenberg:
  • Website: bryaneisenberg.com
  • LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/bryaneisenberg
  • X (formerly Twitter): @TheGrok
• Books Mentioned:
  • Waiting for Your Cat to Bark?
  • Call to Action
• People & Companies Mentioned:
  • Savannah Bananas (Jesse Cole)
  • Newsworthy.ai
  • RocketBEAT

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Welcome to No Hacks, the podcast that cuts through the noise to reveal the truth about the future of work and the impact of AI. In this episode, we're taking a look into the phenomenon of "vibe coding" – the idea that you can simply describe an app to an AI and have it magically built.

Is Vibe Coding the shortcut to tech success, or just another false promise?

Sani argues that the hype around pure vibe coding mirrors the deceptive playbook of dropshipping gurus: selling a dream that ultimately profits the platform, not the aspiring creator. We break down the seductive promises, expose the harsh realities, and reveal the catastrophic failures that occur when the "vibes turn bad."

What you'll learn in this episode:

• What Vibe Coding Really Is: Understand the difference between responsible AI-assisted development and "pure" vibe coding, where code is accepted without full understanding.
• The Anatomy of a Hype Cycle: Discover the striking parallels between the vibe coding phenomenon and the dropshipping course industry, from their sales pitches to their hidden realities and who truly profits.
• A Catalogue of Catastrophes: Hear real-world horror stories of instantly hacked startups, data deletion disasters, and AI models that "lie"—illustrating the dangers of relying on AI without deep technical oversight.
• The 80/20 Trap: Explore why AI can get you 80% of the way to a prototype, but that crucial final 20%—security, scalability, and integration—requires uniquely human skills.
• The "No Hacks" Skills for the AI Era: We conclude by revealing the four critical, future-proof skills that will define the next generation of builders and leaders in technology: Systems Thinking, Problem Decomposition, Architectural Integrity & Security, and Expert Curation.

Don't fall for the illusion of "irrational confidence" in tech. Tune in to understand why deep, durable skills, not magic, are the real path to success in the age of AI.

Important links from the episode:

• https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/1jmyk5k/seems_like_the_guy_who_invented_the_vibe_coding/
• https://www.finalroundai.com/blog/vibe-coding-failures-that-prove-ai-cant-replace-developers-yet
• https://www.louisbouchard.ai/genai-coding-risks/
• https://medium.com/@lars_13145/system-thinking-and-ai-redefining-software-product-development-a193a08119bc
• https://instil.co/blog/critical-thinking-in-the-age-of-ai-and-why-it-still-matters/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Stephenson
• Comparison table

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The world of work is changing faster than ever, and AI is leading the charge. What does this mean for industries like SEO, marketing, and content? And more importantly, what does it mean for your career?

In this episode of No Hacks, I’m joined by Olga Andrienko, a marketing leader who transitioned from VP of Brand Marketing into AI operations. Her journey is the perfect case study for how professionals can adapt when the ground shifts under their feet.

We start with Olga’s “lightning bolt moment” at an AI course that showed her the power of automation and AI agents. From there, we explore:

• The future of SEO and search: why Google’s AI Overviews are disrupting traffic, how “search everywhere optimization” is replacing traditional SEO, and what it means for attribution.
• AI business models and big tech: the economic reality behind AI tools, the competition between Google and OpenAI, and why Olga switched from iPhone to Google Pixel for integrated AI features.
• Practical automation in marketing ops: real workflows Olga and her team automated, how to identify the right tasks to start with, and what role AI workflow architects play.
• The jobs of tomorrow: emerging roles like Heads of AI Ops and AI workflow specialists, why community and events still matter, and how to stand out in a flood of AI sameness.
• Human creativity in an AI-first world: why now is the easiest time to stand out online, and why clumsy, authentic writing can be a feature, not a bug.

This conversation is not just about AI tools. It is about how work itself is being reshaped, what skills will still matter five or ten years from now, and how you can adapt your career for long-term success.

👉 If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast so you never miss what’s next. And join the Substack, where I share deeper insights, notes, and resources to help you navigate the future of work. 

Episode links:

• No Hacks Substack
• How to start in any brand role (Olga's LinkedIn post)

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In this emergency solo episode I walk you through #ChatGate, the discovery that thousands of “shared” ChatGPT conversations are now fully searchable on Google. We de-mystify the site: operator, trace the unusual timeline that puts OpenAI, Google Cloud and Microsoft on a collision course, and explain why some marketers cheer while privacy advocates panic. 

Most importantly, you’ll learn how to check whether your chats are exposed and what to do next. 

Key Takeaways

• Shared ChatGPT links are public if you tick “Enable search indexing.”
• A sitemap discovered in late 2024 helps Google crawl those pages automatically.
• OpenAI now pays Google for compute while Microsoft cools its spending — timing that looks suspicious.
• Marketers cheering the “SEO gold-mine” are ignoring the privacy fallout.
• Audit yourself (site:chatgpt.com/share "Your Name"), delete stray links, and think twice before sharing sensitive prompts.

Enjoy the listen — and remember: what happens in ChatGPT doesn’t necessarily stay in ChatGPT.

Resources & Further Reading

1. Google Support – Advanced Search Operators (official guide to site:)
   https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2466433?hl=en
2. OpenAI Help Center – “Share your conversations” (checkbox controls indexing) https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7925741-chatgpt-shared-links-faq
3. LinkedIn Post by Senthil Kumar – “OpenAI’s /shared-convos-sitemap.xml SEO play” https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/unboxing-chatgpts-organic-traffic-deep-dive-openais-seo-hariram-jhtkc
4. TechCrunch (31 July 2025) – “Your public ChatGPT queries are getting indexed by Google” https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/31/your-public-chatgpt-queries-are-getting-indexed-by-google-and-other-search-engines/
5. Fast Company (30 July 2025) – “Google is indexing ChatGPT conversations—here’s why it’s a privacy nightmare” https://www.fastcompany.com/91376687/google-indexing-chatgpt-conversations
6. Yahoo Finance (Dec 2024) – “Microsoft has invested nearly $14 billion in OpenAI but is pulling back”
   https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-invested-nearly-14-billion-000512844.html
7. Reuters (16 July 2025) – “OpenAI taps Google Cloud TPU chips to meet soaring demand”
   https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/openai-lists-google-cloud-partner-amid-growing-demand-computing-capacity-2025-07-16/
8. Juliana Jackson – Substack Essay “ChatGPT Indexed Conversations”
   https://julianajackson.substack.com/p/chatgpt-indexed-conversations

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