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OpenAI's new agents, dots, are fuzzy balls with eyes that you name and dress. They also sign into websites with your saved passwords and read the email you connect. I went through OpenAI's pages to see what the face is covering. What a dot reads can train the model unless you find the switch, and websites are told nothing. I would not give one my logins or my card.
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Mark Zuckerberg says Meta's AI agent, Muse, needs to be discreet. The same month, some of the calls it made to businesses were placed by people in a call center. I went through what he told Joanna Stern and Alex Heath about Muse's privacy and security and sorted every claim by tense. What exists today, only Meta has checked. The protection from Meta itself is promised for later this year. My verdict: stay away from this. After the sign-off, the show moves to Saturday mornings.
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No Hacks runs no sponsorships and is funded by advisory and audit work.
If your website needs to work for machines as well as people, start with a fixed-scope Machine-First Architecture audit: https://nohacks.co/audit
A hundred and seventy-two companies have put their name to A2A, the standard for AI agents at different companies to find each other and talk. I took the web address the project lists next to each name and asked 135 of them the question the standard is built around. Four answered. The reason is not technical: MCP needs one person to say yes, A2A needs two organisations.
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No Hacks runs no sponsorships and is funded by advisory and audit work.
If your website needs to work for machines as well as people, start with a fixed-scope Machine-First Architecture audit: https://nohacks.co/audit
A magazine put a paywall in front of its journalism to stop AI reading it. I tested what that paywall actually checks. It reads one line of your request, the name you type in yourself, and compares it against a list. Say who you are and you get a bill. Make something up and you walk straight in. Then I asked two assistants to read the article anyway. Both got charged, both answered, and neither had read a word of it. It keeps going after the sign-off, about where this podcast is headed.
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No Hacks runs no sponsorships and is funded by advisory and audit work.
If your website needs to work for machines as well as people, start with a fixed-scope Machine-First Architecture audit: https://nohacks.co/audit
On August 5 Shopify switched on a second way into every store on its platform, built for AI agents instead of people. Nothing to install, no merchant asked. I opened three unrelated stores, Allbirds, Brooklinen and Partake Foods, and asked each what it could do for a machine. All three answered with the same roughly 800 words, identical character for character, and no merchant wrote a syllable of it. What those words say, and what it costs a brand when the visitor has no eyes.
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No Hacks runs no sponsorships and is funded by advisory and audit work.
If your website needs to work for machines as well as people, start with a fixed-scope Machine-First Architecture audit: https://nohacks.co/audit
Most of what's sold as AI search optimization has never been tested by the people selling it, and this episode is me checking the biggest one against server logs. Ahrefs looked at 137,000 domains in June: 97% of llms.txt files got zero requests in May, and the biggest readers of the rest were SEO audit tools. I also lay out the line I use to sort every pitch: a hack tries to influence what the machine says about you, architecture changes what a machine can read and do on your website.
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00:00 The AI optimization economy and its zero evidence
02:50 llms.txt checked against 137,000 domains
06:00 The main readers of llms.txt are SEO audit tools
08:53 Why this market keeps producing hacks
10:23 Visibility scores and the prompt problem
12:43 Every generation of hacks dies the same way
15:08 What survives model updates
18:39 The mirror: fix what the internet thinks you are
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No Hacks runs no sponsorships and is funded by advisory and audit work.
If your website needs to work for machines as well as people, start with a fixed-scope Machine-First Architecture audit: https://nohacks.co/audit
I came back from a month off the grid to find OpenAI had killed Atlas, its most glamorously launched product, nine months after the keynote. It barely matters, though. The automated, non-human visitor Atlas was sending to your website is still coming, through whatever shell comes next. Build for the visitor, not the browser.
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No Hacks runs no sponsorships and is funded by advisory and audit work.
If your website needs to work for machines as well as people, start with a fixed-scope Machine-First Architecture audit: https://nohacks.co/audit
I sat down with Malte Landwehr, who left VP of SEO at Idealo to become CPO and CMO at Peec AI, the platform that tracks what ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, and Google AI Overviews actually cite. We open on the strangest finding of the year. GummySearch, a Reddit analytics tool that shut down last November, now sits behind about 0.1% of all ChatGPT citations. From there we get into why clicks are the wrong way to measure AI search, why your local brand keeps losing to US ones, why scaled AI content rockets then crashes, and why Malte says SEO is dead as a default growth channel.
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Malte Landwehr is CPO and CMO at Peec AI, an AI search visibility platform that runs daily prompts across ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini, Google AI Overviews, Claude, and Grok. He spent more than twenty years in search and product, including five years as VP of SEO at Idealo and five years as VP of Product at Searchmetrics. In his first six months at Peec AI, the company grew from roughly $500K to $5M in ARR.
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"In a web search, clicking is part of the intended user journey. In an LLM, clicking is completely optional." Malte Landwehr
"They didn't gain visibility as a brand. They now have power over what brands are recommended by LLMs." Malte Landwehr, on GummySearch
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No Hacks runs no sponsorships and is funded by advisory and audit work.
If your website needs to work for machines as well as people, start with a fixed-scope Machine-First Architecture audit: https://nohacks.co/audit
This week I welcome Alisa Scharf, Chief AI Officer at Seer Interactive, to the podcast, to ask the question she fires back at every client who walks in wanting to "win at AI visibility." Her answer flips the whole project: fix what the models get wrong about you before you chase the category terms. We got into her research on why lower-authority websites earn more citations, why LLMs recommend a brand only 2.3% of the time, and the gap nobody is tooling for: getting an agent to actually use your website, not find it.
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Alisa Scharf is Chief AI Officer at Seer Interactive, where she runs the AI practice across the agency's client accounts. Her team's research spans hundreds of thousands of pages and tens of thousands of prompts, and she argues that citations are a leading indicator, not a business outcome.
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"You can flip an old house and turn it into a really impressive place to live. You can't flip an old house and turn it into a skyscraper."Resources
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No Hacks runs no sponsorships and is funded by advisory and audit work.
If your website needs to work for machines as well as people, start with a fixed-scope Machine-First Architecture audit: https://nohacks.co/audit
The user-agent string in the HTTP header has been there since the 1990s. The web was built with software navigating it on someone's behalf. For thirty years that someone was a human. That changes now. Matt Biilmann, CEO and co-founder of Netlify, was one of the first to take seriously what it means when the "user" navigating the web is an AI agent.
He published the foundational essay on Agent Experience in January 2025, pivoted his entire company around it, and recently shipped netlify.ai as a separate entry point built for agents. We cover the four pillars of Agent Experience, why every product already has an agent experience whether you designed one or not, content negotiation as a way to tell agents to go to a different URL than humans, why SaaS is in real trouble (with a story from inside Netlify about ripping out vendor contracts), how the data-structure assumption that has defined software for fifty years is breaking, and the one thing every website owner should start doing this week.
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Matt Biilmann is the CEO and co-founder of Netlify, the platform that started the Jamstack movement and is leading the shift from developer experience to agent experience. His January 2025 essay on Agent Experience is the foundational text for the discipline.
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"Every product has an agent experience because all of these agents, whether through computer use or through fetching your website or through working around the barriers you put up from them, have some agent experience right now. It is just a question of is it good or bad."What To Do Next
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No Hacks runs no sponsorships and is funded by advisory and audit work.
If your website needs to work for machines as well as people, start with a fixed-scope Machine-First Architecture audit: https://nohacks.co/audit
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AI is changing the internet, and nobody asked us if we wanted it changed. So every week I go and look at one thing it did: a website that started charging robots to read it, an assistant that got…
Around fifteen minutes per episode, usually me on my own, with occasional guests. Hosted by Slobodan Manic, a CXL-certified conversion specialist, WordPress Core Contributor, and the creator of Machine-First Architecture, the framework for building websites for the agentic web.

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