We are often told that we have to make a choice between jobs and the environment. And that we have no option but to continue with an economic system that has lead us to a point of climate catastrophe.But there is a growing awareness that to effectively redress climate change we need to radically change the nature of our economy, to transition to a system that is just for people and the planet.We consider this transition, and hear about people making the links between their livelihoods and the need to address climate change.We hear from Bob Massie, an expert on climate change and finance. He is the outgoing President of the New Economy Coalition in the United States. He came to Australia in February as part of the Just Transitions tour, presented by 350 Australia and Earth Worker Cooperative.We also hear from Anna Boddenberg, from Earth Worker Cooperative, who are facilitating worker-owned cooperatives for green jobs. Seeking to provide a transition for communities reliant on polluting industries.Guests: Bob Massie (New Economy Coalition); Anna Boddenberg (Earth Worker Cooperative)