PTS podcast host Joy Votrobek discusses ASCF Senior Analyst Laurence Sanford's latest paper titled "Chaos Funding." They address the riots in L.A. and other parts of the U.S., as well as the potential involvement of dark money in these riots. They also discuss the No Kings peaceful protests with a mix of anti-ICE, pro-Palestinian flags, and Code Pink.

Mr. Sanford is a U.S. Navy veteran who served four years with the CIA. Ms. Votrobek has a degree in International Relations and has worked in security services for over seven years.

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