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  • Too Busy to Coach? You're Already Paying For It with Jeff Conroy
    Headline: The "I Don't Have Time to Coach" Excuse Is Costing You More Than You Know

    Every leader has said it, or at least thought it. "I'd love to coach my team, but I just don't have the time." It sounds reasonable. Calendars are packed and deadlines don't wait around for a feelings check. But the math doesn't hold up. Skip the coaching and you'll spend your week doing something far more exhausting: fixing the same mistakes, answering the same questions, and wondering why nobody on your team seems to be growing.

    Coaching Isn't a Meeting. It's a Mindset.

    A lot of leaders hear "coaching" and picture an hour-long, sit-down therapy session. That's the block. Real coaching often happens in 15 minutes or less, in the hallway, after a rough client call, or during a scheduled one-on-one nobody's allowed to skip. The format matters less than the habit. Build it into how you lead every day and the formal sessions barely matter.

    Coaching and Managing Are Not the Same Job

    See something wrong? Fix it in the moment, explain the how and the why, and move on. That's managing. Coaching is different. It's asking "what are you seeing, what have you tried, what would you do if this were your desk?" One gives direction. The other builds a leader who doesn't need constant direction anymore. Confuse the two and you either micromanage your team into resentment or drift into a therapy session you're not equipped to run.

    The Real Reason Leaders Skip It

    Busy calendars get the blame, but the actual issue usually runs deeper. Leaders skip coaching because they don't see the payoff clearly enough to prioritize it. The data says otherwise: a return north of 700 percent on the investment. Not coaching doesn't save time. It just moves the cost somewhere less visible: burnout, turnover, rumor mills, and a team that never stops needing you to solve problems they should be solving themselves.

    The Bottom Line

    Coaching isn't extra work bolted onto an already full day. It's the work. Skip it and you'll pay for it later in hours spent putting out fires that a five-minute conversation could have prevented.

    Tune in for:

    • Why "I don't have time" is usually a value problem, not a time problem
    • The real difference between coaching, managing, and therapy (and why mixing them up backfires)
    • What a coaching conversation actually sounds like in a normal, chaotic workday
    • The hidden costs of skipping it, and the return on investment when you don't
    Every leader spends their time somewhere. The only question is whether it's a few minutes of coaching today or hours of cleanup tomorrow.

    Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced? Let us know by emailing us 

    Today's Featured Coach - 

    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285


    The rest of the gang:
    • Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711
    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248

    28 min
  • The Six-Word Leadership Rule That Works From Kindergarten to the Corner Office with Geoff McLachlan
    The Six-Word Leadership Rule That Works From Kindergarten to the Corner Office

    Most leadership advice targets people who already have the title. This episode flips that. The panel spends the hour on something bigger: how do you build leaders before they ever get the job? Whether that's a five-year-old on a playground or a fifty-year-old switching careers, the same six words apply.

    Work Hard Isn't Just Sweat

    The panel opens with a story about an eighteen-year-old who got kicked out of school, wandered into a gold industry office, and offered himself up for one brutal year of training. He's in his seventies now and still working mines. But the panel is quick to push back on the idea that hard work alone gets you anywhere. One host tells the story of a coworker who barely showed up to the office and still topped every monthly report, because he'd figured out the difference between busy and effective. The takeaway lands hard: persistence beats raw effort almost every time, and if you're not taking care of your physical and mental health, your hard work has a ceiling.

    Play Fair Doesn't Mean Play Equal

    This is where the episode gets its sharpest idea. Equal means everyone gets the same stool to see over a fence. Fair means the shortest kid gets a taller one. The panel uses a baseball story (a hard-throwing pitcher who couldn't hit the strike zone, versus a smaller kid who could) to make the point that rules matter more than raw talent. Give people clarity on what the rules actually are, and you'll be shocked how many "unfair" situations resolve themselves.

    Be Kind Isn't the Same as Being Nice

    The final third digs into a distinction that reframes the whole episode: nice keeps the peace so people like you. Kind cares enough to have the hard conversation anyway. One host compares niceness to a doormat and kindness to a boundary, arguing that boundaries protect you and the people around you. The front door of your house doesn't let everyone in automatically, and neither should you.

    The Bottom Line

    Leadership isn't a title you earn at forty-five. It's a set of habits you can start building at five. Work hard, but smart. Play fair, but understand that fair isn't equal. Be kind, but don't confuse it with being a pushover.

    Tune in for:

    • A gold mine story that proves hard work without direction just spins your wheels
    • The stool-and-fence example that finally explains the difference between equal and fair
    • Why "don't be an a-hole" might be the most underrated leadership advice ever given
     
    Six words. Zero excuses. Now go lead something.

    Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced? Let us know by emailing us 

    Today's Featured Coach - 

    Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play  Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    The rest of the gang:
    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285
    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711
    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248



    33 min
  • Playing Favorites: The Leadership Habit Nobody Admits To with Jeff Conroy
    Playing Favorites: The Leadership Habit Nobody Admits To

    Ask any team if everyone plays by the same rules. If the honest answer is no, you've found a leadership problem. This episode digs into favoritism: the thing every manager swears they don't do and every employee swears they can see from a mile away.

    Everybody Has One (Yes, Even You)
    The crew opens with a hard truth. Leaders play favorites. Not because they're villains, but because they're human. Nobody wakes up planning to pick a favorite employee. It just happens, quietly, through who gets the benefit of the doubt, who gets a second chance, and who gets invited to lunch.

    How Favor Turns Into Damage
    Favoritism isn't automatically toxic. The hosts make a sharp distinction: a favorite who earned it through reliability and results is different from a favorite who just gets treated better because the boss likes them more. The damage starts the moment inconsistency shows up. Different rules for different people kill trust fast.

    The Favorite Isn't Winning Either
    One of the sharper points in the episode: being the favorite is its own trap. That person gets stuck between two worlds, expected to stay loyal to leadership while still living among the team. Add pressure from both sides and something eventually cracks.

    Consistency Beats Charisma
    The hosts land on this again and again. Fairness doesn't mean treating everyone identically. It means holding a consistent standard so nobody's left guessing which version of the boss they'll get today.

    The Bottom Line
    Favoritism doesn't destroy a team because someone has a favorite. It destroys a team when that favor gets used inconsistently, and everyone starts keeping score.

    Tune in for:

    • Why favoritism sneaks in even when leaders think they're being fair
    • The hidden cost of putting one employee in the middle of everyone else
    • A lightning round that gets real answers, real fast
    Fair leaders aren't perfect. They're just consistent enough that nobody has to guess.


    Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced? Let us know by emailing us T

    Today's Featured Coach - 

    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285

    The rest of the gang:
    • Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711
    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248

    24 min
  • The Blind Spots Killing Your Leadership with Myra Hall
    Nobody wakes up and decides to be a bad leader. That's exactly the problem. Blind spots don't announce themselves. They just sit there, quietly costing you trust, culture, and results while you assume everything's fine.

    This episode breaks down three blind spots that build on each other like dominoes.

    Blind Spot One: You Stop Hearing the Truth
    The higher you climb, the more filtered your information gets. People stop telling you things not because they're hiding something, but because the cost of telling you feels too high. Silence isn't agreement. It's usually a sign you've made honesty expensive without realizing it.

    Blind Spot Two: What You Tolerate Becomes Your Culture
    You can put values on a wall all day long. Your actual culture gets built by whatever behavior you let slide. Culture happens by design or by default, and if you're not actively shaping it, you're getting the version you didn't ask for.

    Blind Spot Three: Avoiding Hard Conversations
    This is where the first two blind spots collide. You're not hearing the truth, bad behavior is getting a pass, and now the hard conversation you've been avoiding is happening anyway. Just not with you. It's happening in everyone else's head.

    The Bottom Line
    Leadership responsibility doesn't mean doing everything yourself. It means owning what happens on your watch, including the stuff nobody told you about. If a conversation feels hard, that's not a reason to skip it. That's your signal it needs to happen now.

    Tune in for:

    • Why "no news" from your team is rarely good news
    • The real difference between a culture built on purpose and one built by accident
    • A simple test for knowing when a conversation is worth having, even when it's uncomfortable
    You can't fix what you can't see. This episode hands you the flashlight.
    Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced? Let us know by emailing us 

    Today's Featured Coach - 

    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711

    The rest of the gang:The rest of the gang:
    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285
    • Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248

    30 min
  • Good Leaders Show Up. Great Leaders Get Coached.with Geoff McLachlan
    Good Leaders Show Up. Great Leaders Get Coached.

    Every leader thinks they're doing fine. Fine isn't the goal. This episode is a shameless (their word) case for why the leaders who go from good to great all have one thing in common: they stopped trying to figure it out alone.

    The Line Between Good and Great
    Good leaders have decent instincts and maybe a solid mentor somewhere in their past. Great leaders keep doing the work long after they've "arrived." The panel breaks down why coaching, not talent, is usually what separates the two.

    Lessons From the Best Bosses They Ever Had
    Each panelist shares a personal story about a leader who changed how they lead today. The throughline: consistency, ownership, and the difference between being nice and being kind. One panelist puts it bluntly: telling someone the truth without softening it into a lie is the real test of good leadership.

    Leaders Are Readers
    The group runs down their go-to leadership books, from the classics to the ones that quietly rewired how they manage people. The takeaway isn't which book to start with. It's that you never stop.

    The Numbers Nobody Argues With
    Coaching isn't a soft perk. The panel lays out the actual return on investment, from the low end to the high end, plus what it really costs a company to replace an employee who walks. Spoiler: it's a lot more than most leaders think.

    The Bottom Line
    You can be a good leader on instinct. You cannot be a great one without outside eyes on your blind spots. Coaching is how good leaders become the ones people would run through a wall for.

    Tune in for:

    • The real dollar return on coaching, and why it's higher than most leaders guess
    • What separates a boss people tolerate from a leader people follow
    • A stack of leadership book recommendations worth actually reading
    • The one-word difference between "nice" and "kind" that changes everything
    Great leadership was never a solo project. Go find your coach.

    Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced? Let us know by emailing us 

    Today's Featured Coach - 

    Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play  Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    The rest of the gang:
    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285
    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711
    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248

    29 min
  • Consistency Over Charisma with Myra Hall
    Charisma Gets You Hired. Consistency Gets You Trusted.

    Everybody wants the leader with the big personality. The one who remembers your kid's name, throws the best parties, and always has some shiny new idea. But this week's episode makes the case for something way less exciting and way more important: consistency.

    The Charismatic Broker Who Lost Everything
    The episode opens with a story about a brilliant, magnetic broker who built a thriving office on pure charm and big ideas. Problem was, the ideas changed every year. Eventually the team stopped following, production dried up, and the office shut down overnight. The person who picked up the pieces? His assistant. Not the most exciting hire, but the most dependable one.

    Charisma Is the Spark, Consistency Is the Fuel
    Great ideas don't go anywhere without people willing to execute them day after day. This episode digs into why teams gravitate toward predictable leaders over exciting ones, even when the exciting ones seem more fun to work with.

    Predictability Builds Psychological Safety
    When people know what to expect from you, good mood or bad, they can operate. When they don't, chaos sets in and trust erodes fast. The conversation covers why reliability with customers matters just as much as reliability with your team.

    Know Your Own Weak Spots
    Nobody's consistent at everything. The episode gets honest about personal blind spots (yes, technology gets called out specifically) and why the smartest move is knowing what you're bad at and building support around it instead of pretending otherwise.

    The Bottom Line
    Consistency isn't flashy. It won't get you a standing ovation at a conference. But it's the trait that actually builds trust, and without trust, leadership doesn't exist.

    Tune in for:

    • Why a office full of charisma still collapsed without consistency
    • The real connection between reliability and psychological safety
    • How to spot your own inconsistencies before they cost you clients or a team
    Skip the personality contest. This episode is about the discipline that actually keeps people following you.
    Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced?

    Reach out to us by emailing us 

    Today's Featured Coach - 

    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711

    The rest of the gang:The rest of the gang:
    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285
    • Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248

    26 min
  • The Human ROI: Leading with Heart When the Numbers Don't Tell the Whole Story with guest Gerren Sprauve and Geoff McLachlan
    The Human ROI: What Happens When Your Business Is Built on Thank-You Moments

    Most business owners track ROI in spreadsheets. Revenue up, costs down, margin healthy. Done. But what if the biggest return your business will ever generate has nothing to do with money?

    This episode, the panel sits down with Garrain Sprauve, founder of Clean Slate Janitorial Services and author of Fast Track Your Calling, who built a seven-figure company not on marketing funnels or hiring algorithms, but on something most leadership playbooks skip entirely: genuine human connection.

    From "Thank You, Sir" to Seven Figures

    It started with a dinner out and a janitor who wouldn't make eye contact. Gerren noticed. He said thank you. The man literally skipped to the next table. That moment cost nothing and changed everything, including Gerren's entire career trajectory. He quit his corporate job to become a janitor because he wanted to understand what that man had felt. That's not a metaphor. He actually did it.

    The Interview Nobody Else Is Running

    When it came time to hire, Gerren didn't ask candidates what they could do for Clean Slate. He asked what Clean Slate could do for them. Goal sheets. Personal conversations. Written-down dreams slid back across the table. The result? Employees who stayed, who recruited their own networks, and who left only when they'd accomplished what they came to do, at which point Garrain threw them a celebration instead of an exit interview.

    Losing Everything and Getting It Back in 24 Hours

    When a subcontractor walked off the job and took her entire team with her, Gerren showed up to his biggest account to find 19 people standing in the parking lot. Those were the workers she'd fired. They raised their hands and asked if he'd hire them. Every single high-five, every Gatorade run, every "how's your family?" had banked something that no HR system can replicate.

    Serve First. The Rest Follows.

    Gerren's framework isn't complicated. It's not a methodology with an acronym. It's simpler: you have everything you need. Use it to serve someone. The return, in loyalty, in referrals, in people calling you from Connecticut years later because they still think of you as their person, is the Human ROI. And it compounds in ways that a P&L statement can't capture.

    The Bottom Line

    Leadership isn't a title you earn. It's a gift that gets given to you, every single day, by the people who choose to follow. Gerren has built his business, his reputation, and his life on that truth. This conversation is a gut-check for anyone who's been leading with a spreadsheet instead of a handshake.

    Tune in for:

    • Why quitting a corporate job to mop floors was one of the smartest career moves ever made
    • The goal-sheet interview technique that turned applicants into advocates
    • What "the Human ROI" means and why it matters more than your quarterly numbers
    • How serving people with zero expectation of return built a business that never needed a job posting
    Don't just lead people. Pour into them. The return is better than anything your accountant will ever show you.

    Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced?

    Let us know by emailing us
     
    Today's Featured Guest - 

    Gerren Sprauve is the founder of Clean Slate Janitorial Services, a company he grew from a single truck to a seven-figure operation by treating every employee, subcontractor, and client like they mattered, because they did. Now an author, speaker, and coach, he helps leaders build loyal cultures and scale with purpose through what he calls the Human ROI.
    By design, he is intentionally easy to reach.
    Website: gerrensprauve.com/
    Email: contactme@gerrensprauve.com
    Book: Fast Track Your Calling — available on Amazon and Audible
    Social: All major platforms except Twitter/X (search Garrain Sprauve)
    LinkedIn: Gerren Sprauve 
    The rest of the gang:The rest of the gang:
    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285
    • Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711
    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248



    25 min
  • The Dependency Trap: When Being Helpful Becomes Harmful with Jeff Geier
    You're Not the Leader. You're the Bottleneck.

    Here's a fun little test: if you vanished from work for 30 days, what would break? If your honest answer is "everything," congratulations -- you haven't built a team. You've built a dependency. This episode is a straight-talk intervention for leaders who have accidentally made themselves the operating system of their own organization, and why that's a problem for everyone, including you.

    You Thought You Were Helping. You Were Actually Hovering.

    The instinct to jump in, solve problems, and keep things running feels like good leadership. It's not. When leaders become the answer to every question and the solution to every crisis, they quietly train their teams to stop thinking for themselves. The result? A ceiling on growth, a bottleneck in operations, and a leader who can't take a two-week vacation without the whole thing unraveling. Sound familiar?

    The "What Do You Think?" Shift

    One of the simplest, most powerful moves a leader can make: when someone brings you a problem, resist the urge to fix it. Instead, ask, "What do you think we should do about it?" Spoiler: they almost always already know. They're not looking for your answer. They're looking for your permission. Stop being the answering machine and start being the thinking partner.

    Letting Them Fail (A Little) Is Actually the Job

    Nobody learns to ride a bike by watching someone else do it. Great leaders let their people stumble -- not catastrophically, just enough to build instincts, resilience, and real confidence. The goal isn't a team that never makes mistakes. It's a team that knows how to recover from them without calling you first.

    The Ego Hiding in Your Calendar

    There's a quiet thrill in being needed. It feels like importance, like value, like leadership. But if your identity is wrapped up in being indispensable, you're building a trap, not a team. The real leadership flex? Developing people who could, in theory, take your job. That's not a threat. That's the whole point.

    The Bottom Line

    If your team can't function without you, that's not loyalty. That's a gap in your leadership. The goal isn't to be the smartest person in the room. It's to build a room full of people who don't need you to be.

    Tune In For:

    • Why the desire to be helpful can quietly become the thing holding your team back
    • A real story about what happens when leaders leave without building the bench first
    • The one question that shifts your team from problem-bringers to problem-solvers
    • How ego plays a sneaky role in keeping leaders stuck in the middle of everything
    • What it actually looks like to lead people toward independence rather than dependence
    You built something worth leading. Now build the team that can lead it with you -- or without you, when it counts.

    Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced?
     Let us know by emailing us 

    Today's Featured Coach - 

    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248

    The rest of the gang:
    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285
    • Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711

    23 min
  • Motivation Is a Myth: What Actually Drives Exceptional Performance with Jeff Conroy
     Motivation Is a Lie (And Great Leaders Know It) 

    Everyone talks about motivation like it's the secret sauce of high performance. Motivate your team! Build a motivated culture! But here's the uncomfortable truth: motivation is temporary, and building your leadership strategy around it is like building your house on sand. This episode of No More Leadership BS calls out the myth, dismantles it piece by piece, and hands you something that actually holds up under pressure. 

    The Myth That Motivation Drives Success 

    As the old saying goes, motivation is like bathing and deodorant. You need to apply it daily for it to work. The post-conference buzz fades. The keynote high evaporates. The bonus check gets spent. What's left? Either a culture built on something deeper, or a team that quietly drifts back to functioning just above getting fired. Spoiler: a lot of teams are doing exactly that. 

    Environment Over Cheerleading 

    The panel makes a sharp pivot here: it's not a leader's job to motivate people. It's a leader's job to build an environment where people can choose to be motivated. That's not semantics, that's a fundamental shift in how you show up as a leader. External fixes don't solve internal problems, and if you've ever tried to buy morale with pizza parties and employee-of-the-month plaques, you already know this. 

    Ownership, Standards, and the Artisans Who Signed Their Work 

    The conversation takes a genuinely fascinating turn when the panel reflects on a 150-year-old house where the craftsmen literally signed their work on the staircase wall. Would you sign yours? That question cuts to the core of the ownership conversation. When people treat their work like it carries their name, standards rise and stay risen. When leadership keeps lowering the bar to avoid conflict, that lower bar becomes the new normal, and the slide is hard to stop. 

    High Standards vs. Perfectionism: Know the Difference 

    Perfectionism gets stuck. High standards get better. The panel draws a clear and useful line: chasing perfection is demotivating, paralyzing, and frankly a little insufferable (see: the misaligned slide that sent the perfectionists in the audience into a quiet spiral). Chasing improvement, on the other hand, means understanding that as you get more competent, the gains get smaller and more incremental, and that's not failure. That's mastery in progress. 

    The Bottom Line 

    Leadership isn't about being the most motivated person in the room or keeping everyone else pumped up. It's about owning your role, maintaining standards when it's easier to drop them, and doing the right thing when nobody's watching. The best leaders aren't perfect. They're consistent. And what leaders allow becomes the new normal, for better or worse. 

    Tune In For: 

    • Why "motivating your team" might be the wrong goal entirely
    • The ownership mindset that separates artisans from clock-punchers
    • What hourly pay did to craftsman culture (and what that means for your team today)
    • The real difference between a high-standard leader and a perfectionist
    • Rapid-fire wisdom on what destroys performance, earns respect, and what great leaders do consistently

    You came here for leadership without the fluff. This episode delivers. Turns out, the secret isn't motivation. It's everything that shows up when motivation leaves.

     Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced? Let us know by emailing us 

    Today's Featured Coach - 

     
    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285


    The rest of the gang:
    • Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711
    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248

    22 min
  • Plaques, Pizza, and the Problem with "We Have a Program" with Jeff Conroy
    Your Recognition Program is Lying to You

    You've got the plaques. You've got the pizza parties. You've got the "Employee of the Month" wall. And somehow, your people still feel invisible. What gives?

    This episode of No More Leadership BS takes a sledgehammer to the feel-good fantasy of recognition programs and gets real about what actually makes people feel seen, valued, and motivated to show up and do their best work.

    The Trophy Problem Nobody Talks About

    Here's the thing about recognition: it's not one-size-fits-all, and handing everyone a coffee mug isn't going to cut it. Some people light up for public praise. Others feel seen when you depend on them. One person's wall full of trophies is another person's trash pile. If you don't know which camp your people are in, your recognition program is just organized noise. Know your people. Full stop.

    Check the Box, Lose the Trust

    Recognition programs created by HR budgets and quarterly planning cycles have a dirty secret: they often have nothing to do with genuine appreciation. When you outsource caring about your employees to a catalog of branded merchandise, you're not building culture. You're checking a box. Real recognition isn't a line item. It's a leadership practice. There's a difference between "we have a program" and "we actually give a damn."

    Motivation Isn't Your Job (Kind Of)

    Here's a spicy take worth sitting with: it's not a leader's job to motivate people. The word "motive" is internal. What leaders CAN do is create an environment where people choose to be motivated. That means fair pay, genuine appreciation, and treating your team like humans instead of human resources. You want "I get to go to work on Monday," not "I have to go to work on Monday." One of those builds a great company. The other one builds resentment.

    What Gets Recognized Gets Repeated

    Specificity is the secret weapon nobody's using. "Good job" is forgettable. "That report you put together moved the whole project forward and helped the team hit their goal. Thank you." That lands. That's what people remember. That's what they'll try to replicate. And do it immediately. A week-late touchdown celebration is just awkward.

    The Bottom Line

    Recognition isn't about trophies, pizza, or Starbucks cards. It's about leadership. People need to know their work matters, and the best organizations don't stumble into engaged employees. They have leaders who intentionally see their people, name the behaviors they want repeated, and actually care whether the people on their team are thriving. Recognition costs almost nothing. Ignoring people costs you everything.

    Tune In For:

    • Why your recognition program might be doing more harm than good
    • The kindergarten classroom strategy that works just as well on adults
    • What DISC assessments have to do with coffee cards (and why that matters)
    • The rapid-fire debate: public vs. private, effort vs. results, immediate vs. later
    • The one move leaders can make tomorrow to improve recognition instantly

    Stop checking boxes. Start seeing people. Your culture depends on it.

    Have questions,  suggestions or just a great story to tell about some Leadership BS you have experienced? Let us know by emailing us 

    Today's Featured Coach - 

    • Jeff Conroy - Organizational and Non-profit Expert, Motivational Speaker, Coach -  Executive Leader | Difference Maker for nonprofits in strategic planning, operations, and fundraising and development. Owner/Founder of Conroy Leadership Consulting, LLC. Reach Jeff at [email protected] or  208-215-6285

    The rest of the gang:
    • Geoff McLachlan - Motivational Speaker, Trainer and Coach, Bringing Fun Back Into the Workplace,  Owner/Founder of Professionals At Play Reach Geoff directly at [email protected] or 509-869-4506
    • Myra Hall - Individual and Team Coaching, Midlife Mentoring- Helping you get excited about life again as you overcome the things that keep you from living and loving a life that counts. - Owner/Founder Waypoint Coaching Group Reach Myra at [email protected] or 765-623-9711
    • Jeffrey Geier - Motivational Speaker, Trainer, and Coach - Helping You Win in Work & Life  Owner/Founder of Phoenix Coaching LLC Reach Jeffrey at [email protected] or 509-553-9248



    27 min

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