Episode Description: What do you do when the phone call you never expected changes everything? In this episode, Anna sits down with Debra McNinch, founder of Battle Cry Moms, who shares the journey that began when her son announced he was transgender. Debra speaks not about her son's story, but her own — the bathroom floor, the promises she made to God, and how He met her there. This conversation is for every listener who has a before-and-after moment, a prodigal they love, or a wound they haven't yet brought all the way through.

Key Talking Points:

• The tsunami metaphor — how a single phone call dismantled Debra's picture-perfect life

• Why Debra frames this as her story, not her son's

• The immediate promises she made to God: journal, build community, tell the story

• Prophetic dreams 20 years prior — God's long preparation for a moment she couldn't see coming

• Getting off the bathroom floor: it's a process, not a day

• Old Testament stories that anchored her faith — Gideon, David in 1 Samuel 30, Deborah in Judges

• Door 1 vs. Door 2 vs. Door 3 — finding a third way that is neither condemnation nor full affirmation

• "I cannot hate my child enough to get him to heaven" — and refusing to love him straight to hell

• The back door: bypassing the head to reach the heart

• The sewing machine story — a small, ordinary act that broke through years of estrangement

• Fixing the wall in front of your own house (Nehemiah) — you can't change the whole world, but you can change what's in front of you

• Keeping the bridge intact so the prodigal has a way home

• The marriage supper of the Lamb as the one table that matters

• Battle Cry Moms: 1,700+ moms worldwide, praying and holding each other's arms up

Scriptures Referenced:

• Psalm 23 — He leads me through the valley

• Revelation 12:11 — Overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of your testimony

• Luke 15 — The Prodigal Son (and the older brother still outside)

• Judges 4–5 — Deborah: "I arose, a mother in Israel"

• 1 Samuel 30 — David pursues; not one was lost

• Nehemiah 3 — Each one repaired the section in front of his own house

• Isaiah 61:3 — Beauty from ashes (referenced in spirit)

• John 21:18 — Jesus to Peter: "When you are older, they will lead you where you do not want to go"

Resources Mentioned:

• Debra's website & blog: http://www.debramcninch.com — sign up here

• Purchase Battle Cry: https://a.co/d/00DxPQhg

• Battle Cry Moms: https://www.battlecrymoms.com/

• Battle Cry Dads: https://battlecrydads.com/

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