Tony and Tobie are back together and kicking things off with a question that hits close to home: Do we expect too much from our partners? They dive into studies that challenge some of their own ideas about modern marriage, partnership, and whether we’re asking one person to fulfill too many roles in our lives. Then, Tobie gives her take on Netflix’s Death of a Pastor’s Wife and reveals just how deep her fascination with cults; and the psychology behind them, really goes. Finally, they take us inside the emotional roller coaster of dropping their son off at boarding school, from saying goodbye to anxiously waiting through four very long days for him to finally pick up the phone and call home.

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We’re joined by our friends Terry and Heather Dubrow, who open up about how they met on a blind date and Heather’s initial reluctance to settle down. They get candid about the challenges (or lack thereof) of raising four children in Orange County and in the reality TV spotlight, Terry’s ultimate act of betrayal to get Heather to join The Real Housewives of Orange County, and the rules they’ve put in place to keep their marriage strong while laying it all out on television.

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Chris and Vanessa Spencer are in the house! They take us back to where it all started; a comedy club, Kevin Hart playing matchmaker, and a connection that turned into more than 20 years together. We get into how they’ve balanced two careers in Hollywood while raising kids close in age, the rules that keep their arguments from going off the rails (including a strict no-cursing policy), and why scheduling sex at least three days in advance might actually be the secret to keeping the spark alive. Now that the kids are out of the house, Chris and Vanessa are officially empty nesters; and they’re giving us the real story on what that next chapter of marriage looks like, what they love about it, and what you definitely shouldn’t get your hopes up about.

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Let’s get into it!

Tony and Tobie kick things off by letting you into their world; from their similarities and differences to the story of how they first met at Dennis Rodman’s bar… while Tobie had a boyfriend. They also pay tribute to Dolly Parton, reflecting on her decades-long marriage to Carl Dean and how the couple managed to balance love, independence and life in the spotlight. Tony and Tobie explore whether being opposites can actually make a relationship stronger, and get surprisingly candid about what happens when “till death do us part” becomes a reality. Finally, they break down their own “rules” of marriage, the boundaries and habits that have worked for them, and what they believe has helped their relationship last more than 20 years.

It’s love, marriage, death and Dennis Rodman. No topic is off-limits, and there are definitely no safe words.

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