Join hosts Peter Melnick and Eddie Wilson as they sit down with genre icon Michael Bailey Smith (Men in Black II, The Hills Have Eyes, Charmed) for a no-holds-barred deep dive into his extraordinary career. The conversation centers on his unforgettable role as Ben Grimm / The Thing in Roger Corman’s legendary unreleased 1994 Fantastic Four film—a cult classic that never saw the light of day... until now.

Smith shares behind-the-scenes stories from the low-budget production, the infamous “never meant to be released” myth, and how the project shaped his approach to playing larger-than-life characters. From practical effects mishaps to on-set camaraderie with the doomed cast, no stone is left unturned.

Timed perfectly with Marvel Studios’ The Fantastic Four: First Steps landing on Disney+, this episode celebrates the First Family’s long-awaited return to the spotlight while honoring the scrappy indie effort that kept the dream alive for three decades.