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Lucas Aoun has tried more than 250 nootropics on his own brain. He grew up working in his dad's pharmacy, trained as a naturopath, and now builds custom supplement stacks for entrepreneurs and executives. He's also quietly formulated products for some big US supplement brands.
About 18 minutes in, he was explaining why most doctors only check TSH for thyroid, and why he likes to see it under 2. So I pulled up my own bloodwork while we were recording. Mine was 7.3. I'm 6'5", 10%(ish) body fat, and I've been lifting for 17 years. I did not see this coming.
Update: since we recorded this, I've gotten my TSH down to 2.71.
We also get into:
- Why so many guys feel "not good enough," and how much of that might be low testosterone
- Lucas's take on microplastics blocking the testosterone receptor
- Tight polyester underwear, daily saunas, and sperm counts
- Why Adderall and caffeine borrow dopamine from tomorrow, and how Lucas rebuilds it instead
- The downside of ashwagandha. I took it for a long time before I heard about this.
- What to do the morning after a 2am night (I took 20g of creatine before we recorded)
- Modified starches in yogurt, pastries and bacon, and why Lucas says they aggravate people's guts
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:25 Doing everything right and still tired
02:17 Growing up in his dad's pharmacy
05:45 Testosterone and the voice in your head
08:48 What to do when stress won't let up
11:41 Sperm counts, underwear, and saunas
15:18 Why a TSH test alone isn't enough
17:57 My TSH is 7.3
21:28 What 250+ nootropics taught him
25:56 Stimulants vs rebuilding dopamine
28:19 Natural vs pharmaceutical
30:12 When biohacking becomes its own stress
32:50 Offsetting the damage
34:52 The problem with ashwagandha
36:43 Coming off long-term ashwagandha
39:00 Why he builds custom protocols
42:39 Mitochondria and how long recovery takes
44:43 The NO TOX question
Find Lucas:
INB4 Supplements: https://www.inb4supps.com
CatuaPure (the dopamine product he mentions): https://www.inb4supps.com/products/catuapure
Boost Your Biology: https://www.boostyourbiology.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ergogenic_health
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/boostyourbiology
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ergogenichealth
Boost Your Biology Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/7ey67YWHirP7NhBgbmouAT
Substack: https://boostyourbiology.substack.com
Personalized supplement protocol: https://go.boostyourbiology.com/freebloodtestanalysis
Custom formulation: https://www.boostyourbiology.com/custom-formulation
TRT Free: https://trtfree.com
The Limitless Course: https://www.thelimitlesscourse.com
Watch the full episode: https://my.notox.tv
Host: Jesse Henry, https://www.jessehenry.co
If you know someone who's doing everything right and still dragging, send them this episode.
Nothing here is medical advice. Talk to your doctor before you change supplements or meds.
What do you do when the law moves slower than the chemicals entering our food, water, homes, and bodies?
Ken Cook has spent more than 30 years answering that question. A soil scientist and agricultural policy analyst by training, he helped shape the conservation provisions of the 1985 Farm Bill before co-founding the Environmental Working Group in 1993.
Ken entered the fight believing that if you wrote the right law, passed it, and enforced it, the problem would move. Then, as he tells it, regulation slowed, industry resistance hardened, and the distance between what was legal and what was safe stayed open.
Ken and the EWG team built their own path. EWG took science and government data out of Washington and put it into tools families could use in the produce aisle, under the kitchen sink, and at the tap. The Dirty Dozen, Skin Deep, the Tap Water Database, and EWG Verified gave people practical choices and gave companies a market reason to make cleaner products.
This is not a victory lap. Ken tells the truth about what he got wrong, from missing the power of consumer choice to backing away from early PFAS testing. He takes the criticism of the Dirty Dozen seriously, explains what MAHA gets right and wrong, and shows how to reduce daily exposure without fear, shame, or throwing away everything in your house.
WHAT WE GET INTO
• Why successful environmental laws triggered a powerful industry response
• The insight that changed the pesticide debate: children are not small adults
• What companies knew about PFAS before the public did
• Why “fragrance” can conceal hundreds of chemicals behind one word
• Why Ken argues that legal does not always mean safe
• How to make cleaner choices when time and money are limited
Ken’s practical advice is simple: focus on the exposures that happen every day, replace products as they run out, and give yourself enough grace to keep going.
CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Products Start as Thoughts
00:03:44 Environmentalism Gets Personal
00:05:49 Farm Bill and Backlash
00:08:59 The Problem Was It Worked
00:14:24 From Policy to Products
00:17:03 Founding EWG
00:22:24 Building Dirty Dozen
00:30:59 Green Companies Called
00:34:29 Fragrance and PFAS
00:38:25 PFAS in Tap Water
00:43:11 PFAS Regret
00:46:57 The Market Moved First
00:52:29 Legal Is Not Safe
00:59:29 MAHA and Its Critics
01:07:40 EWG Answers Critics
01:11:36 Nobody Studies Mixtures
01:14:11 Start Under Your Sink
01:17:29 Relaxed Resolve
RESOURCES
Ken Cook at Environmental Working Group:
https://www.ewg.org/who-we-are/our-team/ken-cook
Dirty Dozen and Clean Fifteen:
https://www.ewg.org/foodnews/
Skin Deep Cosmetics Database:
https://www.ewg.org/skindeep/
EWG Tap Water Database:
https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/
PFAS Contamination Map and Current Data:
https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/pfas_contamination/
NO TOX Website:
https://notox.tv/
If this episode changed the way you think about what is legal and what is safe, send it to one person who needs to hear it.
John Roulac sold a billion dollars of organic food. Then he started testing what was in it.
Seventy percent of the imported organic lots his company tested came back hot with banned pesticides. He rejected them. Those same lots went straight to his competitors and onto shelves with a USDA Organic seal on the front. When he told retailers, they said it wasn't their job.
That's the guy I have on this week.
John founded Nutiva in 1999 with 500 hemp seed bars sold out of his car. He built it to nearly a billion in retail sales and 30,000 stores. He put the first thirty thousand dollars into Kiss the Ground, the Netflix film that made regenerative agriculture a household phrase. He's founded seven nonprofits. He now runs Coco Clean, a plastic free detergent company he spent 32 months formulating because nobody else would.
He got here because at 21 a radio DJ said a truck driver dumped nuclear waste nine miles from his house.
What we get into:
John doesn't get invited to the cocktail parties anymore. He'll tell you why on air.
If you switched to organic and figured you were covered, this one's going to be slightly uncomfortable.
Good! That's the point.
Connect with John Roulac
Website: https://johnroulac.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnroulac
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnroulac
Substack: https://substack.com/@johnroulac
Coco Clean: https://www.cococlean.com
Everything in your life started as a thought. When the world shows up toxic, that didn't start at the factory. It started upstream.
This is NO TOX. My first guest is Meghan Swidler. Cornell summa cum laude, tech startup life in San Francisco and New York, and a VC job offer in 2021 that looked like the dream on paper. Underneath it, she was disconnected, anxious, and dealing with cystic acne, gut issues, and a hormonal mess doctors kept dismissing. She quit that VC job the day after she started it.
Today Meghan is a Functional Health and Detox Practitioner based in Venice, California, specializing in deep cellular cleansing and detoxification: colon, liver, lymphatic, parasite, mold, and heavy metal detox. She works with founders, entrepreneurs, and high performers who've already tried conventional and functional medicine and still can't shake gut issues, hormone imbalances, thyroid dysfunction, or chronic inflammation. Meghan is all in on the root cause, not symptom management.
In this conversation, we talk about:
This is for the high achiever who did everything right on paper and still feels off. For anyone who's tried every protocol and still isn't better. For the guy who thinks detox is a woman's thing even though his sleep, drive, and energy tell him otherwise.
Meghan is the author of From Within and From Deep Within, both on Amazon, and creator of The Cleanses, her guided digital detox program.
Connect with Meghan Swidler
Linktree: https://linktr.ee/meghanswidler
Website: https://meghanswidler.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meghanswidler
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghanswidler
Substack: https://meghanswidler.substack.com
Free Detox Quiz: https://meghanswidler.typeform.com/detoxphasequiz
Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Meghan-Swidler/author/B0D66SYTWX
From the publisher's feed
Chemical warfare is being waged on human and planetary health. NO TOX exposes the hidden toxins in our thoughts, words, things, and relationships, and then shows you exactly what to do about…
Most people think detox means a green juice or a weekend cleanse. It doesn't. Toxicity lives in your body, your home, your relationships, and your mind, and it accumulates quietly while you go about your week. It's in the fragrance aisle, the lining of the can, the dust in your carpet, and the conversation you keep replaying at 2am. Almost nobody walking around today has an accurate read on their own toxic load.
Every week, host Jesse Henry sits down with rebels. People who trusted a system, found out it was quietly making them sick, and then went and did something about it. The details are different every time, but similar patterns pop up time and time again.
We look at toxicity in four places, because they feed each other:
Toxicity does not happen by accident. The chemistry in your bloodstream got there through a supply chain. You can filter your water and still be living downstream of decisions you never got a vote on. NO TOX goes upstream and downstream, from the people building cleaner chemistry to the ones treating the damage already done.
Removing toxic chemistries from your life can result in optimized:
You'll learn how everyday products and habits could be quietly working against you, and how to tell a swap that matters from one that just feels productive. You'll learn why the order you detox in actually matters, why jumping straight to the advanced stuff before your body is ready can make you feel worse instead of better, and why chasing more supplements on top of a congested system is like renovating a house with a cracked foundation. You'll also learn how physical, mental, and emotional toxicity run on the same wiring, whether you've noticed it or not.
Every episode closes with the NO TOX Question. Jesse asks each guest to name one toxin, tangible or intangible, that people should be way more aware of, and one practical way to start reducing it. Stack up a hundred of those answers and you have a reference library instead of a podcast feed.
This show is for anyone who reads the labels and still feels off. The parent trying to work out what's actually worth worrying about, the founder who keeps getting told that clean can't be done at cost, the person who has optimized everything and still hit a ceiling they can't explain. This is for the person who is interested in truly sustainable living.
Fear is easy to sell and useless to live with. NO TOX is about seeing your own situation clearly enough to act on it in a way that holds up for your home and the planet you live on.
If we clear the foundation first, everything we build after that works better.
New episodes weekly. Learn more at my.notox.tv.