In this fifth episode of Nobody's Damsel host Ellie Coburn is joined by the amazing Embo Tshimanga to share a bit of her story of resiliency and rising, unpack the absolute ride that was 2020 and discuss the future of America. Embo shares the way that the spotlight on Black Lives Matter shaped her 2020 and awoke in her the desire to surround herself with affirming community, speaks about her personal experience as a Black person intersectional to predominately white churches, and shares her hopefulness for rising above the many systematic beasts that were once in her path. This episode was recorded before the Capitol attack, however, its themes remain strongly relevant to the year ahead: a year full of inevitable obstacles while still marked with all the potential of hope and redemption.