After a long pause, Noise and Smoke is back for podcasts. 

This episode is in Turkish... 

Can Tutuğ is the host in this episode and Osman Şükrü Karaca is the guest. Gürültü ve Duman is experiencing a first in its life. Osman Şükrü does not like free or jazz music at all and Can is trying to elaborate what is underneath this antipathy. This is yet a very frank interview. Being friends for a long time they discuss the matter and listen to Peter Brötzmann, Cecil Taylor, Anthony Braxton and Keiji Haino.