Polarization isn't just a political issue—it's a leadership challenge, and this episode examines how nonprofit leaders can respond with presence rather than reactivity.

In this "Learning Out Loud" episode of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, host Carol Hamilton and guest Danielle Marshall explore how nonprofit leaders can navigate today's polarized environment with greater awareness, empathy, and intention. Together they:

• Explore the tension between "winning" difficult conversations and staying grounded, clarifying purpose, and choosing 'right relationship' over being right.

• Unpack how polarization shows up not just in public discourse, but in workplaces, boardrooms, and personal relationships—and

• Discuss how small, practical practices like pausing, setting intentions, and taking responsibility for impact can help leaders build bridges instead of deepening divides.

Episode Highlights [00:00:27] Polarization Moves From the Headlines Into Daily Life

[00:01:20] Being Right vs. Being in Right Relationship

[00:02:28] The Emotional Toll of Polarization

[00:03:00] Modeling Constructive Dialogue as a Leader

[00:06:18] Polarization Is Everywhere—Even When It's Not Directed at You

[00:08:16] Entering Conversations With Awareness

[00:09:22] Learning How to Listen Requires Practice

[00:11:31] How Social Media Amplifies Division

[00:13:00] Conflict Entrepreneurs and the Cost of Engagement

[00:15:01] Choosing Curiosity Over Combat

[00:16:44] Resetting Mid-Conversation

[00:18:25] Owning Your Triggers

[00:19:18] Learning From Missteps and Making Repair

[00:22:02] Clarifying Meaning Instead of Making Assumptions

[00:23:42] Defining Polarization

[00:25:12] The Stories We Make About "Those People"

[00:27:02] Setting Intentions Before Difficult Conversations

[00:30:22] What Does "Right Relationship" Mean?

[00:31:42] Accountability Without Punishment

[00:34:10] Polarization as a Chasm—and the Skills That Build Bridges

[00:35:47] Start With One Practice

[00:36:23] Closing Conversations With Care

[00:37:24] Begin Where You Are

Guest Bio:

Danielle Marshall is an equity strategist and executive coach committed to helping organizations and leaders embed inclusive practices into their operations in meaningful and sustainable ways. As the founder of Culture Principles, she designs tailored strategies that strengthen team dynamics, enhance problem-solving, and cultivate inclusive leadership. Danielle also coaches senior executives to deepen their cultural competencies, fostering greater empathy, effective communication, and equitable decision-making. An ICF-certified Executive Coach and engaging speaker, she brings extensive experience in organizational development, equipping leaders with the skills and confidence to navigate diverse work places with impact and integrity.

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Danielle Marshall

Culture Principles

Linktree

Unpacked: Culture Chronicles

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As nonprofit leaders move into 2026, uncertainty no longer feels episodic—it feels constant. Scenario planning offers nonprofit leaders a practical way to navigate uncertainty by shifting from reactive decision-making to clearer priorities, stronger alignment, and more confident, values-aligned choices—even when the future is unpredictable.

In this episode of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, host Carol Hamilton names the fatigue, overwhelm, and decision paralysis many leaders are carrying after this past year of heightened disruption. She introduces scenario planning as a practical, grounding strategy tool designed specifically for uncertain times. She discusses:

• What scenario planning and is not

• Why it is a tool that is particularly suited to the times we are in

• How scenario planning helps nonprofit leaders regain a sense of agency, clarify what's within their control, and align staff and board around thoughtful, values-aligned responses to multiple possible futures.

Through clear explanations and client examples, the episode shows how scenario planning can help leaders move from reacting and spinning to steering with intention.

Episode Highlights 00:00–02:00 | Naming the Reality of Nonprofit Leadership Right Now 02:00–03:20 | Scenario Planning - a tool for the times we are in 03:20–05:00 | What Scenario Planning Is—and Is Not 05:00–06:30 | Why Traditional Planning Often Falls Short 06:30–08:00 | Shifting From Overwhelm to Agency 08:00–09:45 | What the Scenario Planning Process Looks Like 09:45–10:45 | Finding Common Priorities Across Futures 10:45–12:00 | An Invitation to Lead with Intention

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Quote from Mariame Kaba From "Read This When Things Fall Apart" Edited by Kelly Hayes

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Explore how nonprofit leaders can cultivate grounded presence, clarify their sphere of control, and stay anchored in mission and values while leading through ongoing uncertainty and disruption.

As nonprofit leaders continue navigating unprecedented levels of uncertainty, this "learning out loud" episode of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, host Carol Hamilton and guest Danielle Marshall offers a grounded, human-centered exploration of how leaders can steady themselves—and their organizations—amid chaos.

Drawing on lived experience, strategic frameworks, and resilience practices, the conversation centers on:

• cultivating a grounded presence,
• clarifying what is within one's sphere of control, and
• anchoring decision-making in mission, values, and community.

Rather than offering quick fixes, the episode invites nonprofit leaders to slow down, filter the noise, strengthen boundaries, and choose intentional actions that sustain both personal wellbeing and collective impact over the long haul.

Episode Highlights

[00:00–02:05] Regrounding in Turbulent Times

[04:15–06:39] Grounded Presence as a Leadership Practice

[06:39–08:23] Chaos Is the Strategy—So Center Your Why

[08:23–10:19] Filtering the Noise & Choosing Information Wisely

[12:08–14:44] Resilience Isn't Perfection

[15:24–17:31] Making Space for Presence

[19:23–20:41] Scenario Planning & the Sphere of Control

[21:21–23:32] Don't Reinvent the Wheel—Find the Organizers

[24:07–25:41] Mission as the Unifying Center

[26:03–27:57] Agency Over Outrage

[29:13–31:08] Community Built Before Crisis

[31:08–33:26] The Power of the Local

[34:56–36:05] Intentionality Over Fear

[40:39–42:40] Boundaries as Leadership Responsibility

[46:03–49:00] Doubling Down on Values

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Danielle Marshall

Culture Principles

Linktree

Unpacked: Culture Chronicles

Draw Together with Wendy MacNaughton

Guardian US edition).

Week magazine

Heather Cox Richardson's Letters from an American on Substack

How to survive the end of the world podcast with adrienne and Autumn Brown

The feminist survival project 2025 podcast

Dear White Women podcast

On Tyranny by Timothy Snyder which is available in a video series

The Sum of Us by Heather McGee

Decluttering Your Leadership by Judy Oyedele

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Strategy for nonprofits is not a plan to perfect but a human practice—built through care, curiosity, and intentional choices in the face of uncertainty.

As the year draws to a close, episode 138 of Nonprofit Mission: Impact brings together reflections from a wide range of nonprofit leaders and thinkers, all responding to one central question: What should nonprofit leaders ask themselves to be more strategic?

Across topics as varied as crisis management, equity, careers, evaluation, organizational design, culture, and innovation, a clear throughline emerges—strategy is deeply human work. Rather than offering abstract frameworks, the episode highlights:

• practical, grounding questions and practices that help leaders navigate uncertainty with clarity, intention, and care.

• An invitation to slow down, resist urgency, tend to themselves and their teams,

• Why it's important to surface assumptions, seek multiple perspectives, and make decisions rooted in both alignment and capacity.

Together, these reflections offer a steadying guide for leaders facing complexity in the year ahead.

Episode Highlights Setting the Frame: Strategy Through Reflection and Humanity

[00:00:00–00:01:13]

Caring for Basic Needs to Make Better Decisions

[00:04:10–00:08:01]

Don't Go It Alone: Expanding Perspective Through Support

[00:08:01–00:10:31]

Two Essential Leadership Questions: "What Am I Missing?" and "Tell Me More"

[00:10:31–00:12:03]

Surfacing Expectations and Assumptions

[00:12:03–00:14:27]

Asking "So What?" to Get to Strategic Impact

[00:14:27–00:16:45]

From Individual Practice to Organizational Insight

[00:17:00–00:18:03]

Interrogating Organizational Design

[00:18:03–00:19:00]

Culture as the Silent Driver of Strategy

[00:19:00–00:20:33]

Filtering New Opportunities Through Alignment and Capacity

[00:20:39–00:21:59]

Resisting Frantic Urgency in Favor of Sustainable Focus

[00:22:05–00:24:00]

Closing Reflection: Strategy as Moment-by-Moment Human Practice

[00:24:08–00:25:53]

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How can nonprofit organizations navigate leadership transitions with steadiness and clarity? In episode 137 of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, Carol Hamilton talks with Erin Stratford Owens, a seasoned interim executive director to answer this question. Carol and Erin talk about:

• what makes interim leadership distinct from simply "holding down the fort" — it's a time for honest reflection, system assessment, and preparing the path for what's next.

• how boards and staff can make the most of an interim period,

• the common mistakes to avoid, and why slowing down to plan for sustainability — rather than reacting in urgency — is essential for long-term impact.

The conversation offers nonprofit leaders a grounded perspective on turning moments of uncertainty into opportunities for renewal and learning.

Episode highlights:

[00:08:26] What Interim Leadership Really Is

[00:11:56] Misconceptions About Interims

[00:15:21] Avoiding Common Mistakes

[00:18:46] Setting the Stage for the Next Leader

[00:20:26] The Board's Crucial Role

[00:22:41] Building Staff Trust

[00:25:36] Addressing Systems and Structure

[00:29:26] What Makes an Interim Successful

[00:30:56] From Urgency to Sustainability

Guest Bio:

Erin Stratford Owens is the founder and CEO of ESO Nonprofit Consulting, specializing in Interim Executive Leadership and coaching for nonprofits and nonprofit leaders in transition. Erin holds a BA in English from UNC-Greensboro and a Master's in Nonprofit Management from The New School's Milano School of Policy, Management and Environment. She is a Certified Interim Executive through Armstrong McGuire Interim Leadership Institute. With 12 years of experience as an in-house nonprofit Executive Director, her extensive interim leadership experience includes guiding organizations through critical transitions at Humane Society of the Piedmont, Partners Ending Homelessness, Boys and Girls Clubs of Greater High Point, Greensboro Farmers Market, and Humane Society of Catawba County. She currently serves as Board Chair for the Guilford County Continuum of Care and as a Steering Committee member of the Guilford Nonprofit Consortium. When not working or volunteering, Erin enjoys spending time with her husband and two kids, two dogs, and a 16-year-old blind kitty cat named Smokie

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In episode 136 of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, Carol Hamilton, Elizabeth Engel, and Jamie Notter talk about their new white paper Lean at 10: Culture Eats Methodology for Lunch. Ten years after Engel first explored Lean Startup principles in the nonprofit and association world, she and Notter revisit what's changed—and what hasn't. Carol, Elizabeth and Jamie discuss:

• Why the tools of innovation are accessible, yet the real challenge in adoption lies in organizational culture.

• how competing commitments, fear of failure, and rigid silos can quietly sabotage innovation efforts

• what leaders can do instead to nurture learning, empathy, and experimentation.

For nonprofit and association leaders navigating rapid change, this conversation offers a candid look at how to build cultures that support innovation—not resist it.

Episode highlights:

[00:06:00] Revisiting Lean Startup, 10 Years Later [00:010:50] Defining Lean Startup and Design Thinking [00:011:50] Culture: The Invisible Barrier [00:014:40] When Culture Undermines Innovation [00:19:00] Insight Over Perfection [00:22:00] People Don't Resist Change—They Resist Being Changed [00:24:40] Low Fences, Not No Silos [00:27:00] Listening Beyond the Boardroom [00:30:40] Volunteer Culture Matters Too [00:31:00] The Role of Healthy Conflict [00:37:35] What a Culture Supportive of Innovation Looks Like [00:41:20] From Reactive to Proactive Transparency [00:44:35] The Questions Nonprofit Leaders Should Ask

Guest Bios:

Elizabeth Weaver Engel, M.A., CAE, is Chief Strategist at Spark Consulting. For more than 25 years, Elizabeth has helped associations grow in membership, marketing, communications, public presence, and especially revenue, which is what Spark is all about. She speaks and writes frequently on a variety of topics in association management. When she's not helping associations grow, Elizabeth loves to dance, listen to live music, cook, and garden.

Jamie Notter is a speaker, author, consultant, and culture scientist. His career spans 30 years, with more than a decade of research and practice in the culture field, as well as deep experience in areas like conflict resolution and generations. He desperately wants to make work suck less for everyone, and has written four popular business books, including the award-winning Non-Obvious Guide to Employee Engagement, and his latest release, Culture Change Made Easy. He holds a Master's in conflict resolution from George Mason and a certificate in Organization Development from Georgetown, where he served as adjunct faculty.

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Elizabeth Weaver Engel

https://www.getmespark.com/

https://www.getmespark.com/blog/

Jamie Notter

https://jamienotter.com/

https://jamienotter.com/research-books/

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In episode 135 of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, Carol Hamilton talks with organizational design consultant Julian Chender about how nonprofits can move beyond simple restructuring to intentional organizational design that aligns strategy, structure, and process.

They discuss:

• how organizational design is not the same as restructuring

• how design choices impact effectiveness, collaboration, and long-term sustainability.

• the pitfalls of designing around personalities,

• the importance of strategic clarity when facing downsizing or merger decisions.

The conversation offers nonprofit leaders practical insights into building organizations that are resilient, adaptable, and positioned for impact.

Episode highlights:

The Why Behind the Work - [00:08:08]

Defining Organizational Design - [00:13:53]

Structure, Silos, and Collaboration - [00:14:41]

Common Mistakes in Nonprofit Design - [00:18:23]

Balancing Human-Centered Values and Strategy - [00:20:40]

Downsizing by Design - [00:24:36]

Participation and Ownership - [00:23:32]

Benchmarking vs. Mass Customization - [00:30:01]

Strategic Plans Require Organizational Design - [00:37:40]

Mergers and Strategic Alliances - [00:41:21]

Examples of Successful Mergers - [00:44:16]

The Key Question for Leaders - [00:47:57]

Guest Bio:

Julian Chender is the founder of 11A Collaborative, an organization design firm focused on creating healthy society through healthy organizations. In his early years, Julian was an internal consultant at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID) under Tony Fauci during the agency's response to the global Ebola and Zika crises. From there, he moved to external consulting, eventually joining Accenture's Operating Model & Organization Design practice shortly after its acquisition of Kates Kesler. Through 11A Collaborative, Julian has consulted to purpose-driven organizations across sectors. He is a Certified Organization Design Practitioner and an ICF-Certified Coach who holds a master's degree in Organization Development from American University and a B.A. in History from Swarthmore College.

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Julian Chender

11A Collaborative

Organization Design Forum

Downsizing by Design: A Guide for Nonprofits

Candid Social Impact Staff Retention survey

Board Source Purpose Driven Leadership

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In episode 134 of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, host Carol Hamilton welcomes guest Kayla Meyers, founder of Bridgepoint Evaluation, for a conversation about reimagining program evaluation in nonprofits.

They discuss:

• Why evaluation is not an audit or judgment as it has sometimes been in the past

• It should be a collaborative, curiosity-driven process that opens communication, supports learning, and improves impact.

• How to create right-sized, useful evaluation practices rooted in strategy and driven by purpose.

• How evaluation can be a force for good—helping organizations tell fuller, more meaningful stories about their work and the communities they serve.

Episode highlights:

🚩 Evaluation's Troubled History - [00:08:10] ❌ From Punitive to Collaborative - [00:13:10] 💡 Why Smaller Orgs Should Evaluate - [00:16:10] 🛠️ Start with Strategy - [00:19:10] 🔁 Formalizing Feedback Loops - [00:20:40] 🍽️ Make It Make Sense - [00:22:10] 🗣️ Turning Data Into Stories - [00:26:10] ❓The One Question Nonprofit Leaders Should Ask - [00:31:50]

Guest Bio:

Kayla (Mueller) Meyers is a seasoned program evaluator with over a decade of experience in assessing and improving programs for nonprofits and public organizations. She specializes in evaluation capacity building and mixed-methods program evaluation, bringing a wealth of knowledge and expertise to her clients

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Kayla Meyers

Bridgepoint Evaluation

Bridgepoint Evaluation Newsletter

Humphrey School of Public Affairs

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In episode 133 of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, host Carol Hamilton and guest Paula Brantner, workplace fairness consultant and founder of Accountability Ignited, unpack the real challenges nonprofits face in preventing harassment, bullying, and misconduct.

They talk about:

• The often-overlooked gaps in nonprofit systems—particularly around reporting mechanisms—and

• The false sense of security many mission-driven organizations have about their immunity to these issues.

• How to take a proactive, values-based approach rooted in trauma-informed practices,

• Why codes of conduct need to include all constituents, including for example sponsors and vendors to be effective

For nonprofit and association leaders seeking to build safer and braver organizational cultures, this episode is full of actionable insight.

Episode highlights:

Inadequate Legal System - [00:08:23] Reporting Systems as Ground Zero - [00:9:45] Small Organizations Are Especially Vulnerable - [00:11:00] Aligning Codes of Conduct with Values - [00:13:19] Moving Beyond Punitive Approaches - [00:15:48] Codes Should Live Beyond the Employee Handbook - [00:17:01] Who's in the Ecosystem? Everyone. - [00:18:00] Special Risk Zones: Conferences and Galas - [00:21:00] Building Visible, Trained Allies Programs - [00:24:35] Multiple Reporting Channels Are Key - [00:27:00] Trauma-Informed Listening - [00:38:18] Power Dynamics and Systemic Barriers - [00:37:00] Organizational Excellence: 3 Leading Practices - [00:42:00] Proactive Culture-Building as a Strategic Imperative: It can happen anywhere - [00:46:10]

Guest Bio:

Paula Brantner of Accountability Ignited builds harassment and toxic workplace prevention systems that reflect your values and transform your culture. She works with academic societies, professional organizations, nonprofits, and political organizations on training, reporting systems and policy development to encourage reporting, ensure accountability, and build a harassment-free environment. Prior to founding Accountability Ignited in 2016, Paula spent 18 years (including eight as executive director) with Workplace Fairness, a legal nonprofit that educates workers about their legal rights in the workplace. An employment lawyer for over 30 years, Paula has degrees from UC Law-San Francisco and Michigan State University's James Madison College. She has a credential from the Association of Workplace Investigators (AWI-CH), and incorporates training in trauma-informed and anti-racism principles and practices into her work.

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Paula Brantner

Accountability Ignited

Building Inclusive Scientific Communities and Leadership Case Studies from Professional Societies

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In episode 132 of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, Carol Hamilton and Justine Krank discuss the realities and nuances of pursuing US government grants for nonprofit organizations.

They discuss:

• common misconceptions including that government grants equals federal grants

• The challenges and compliance demands that come with government dollars.

• How to decode complex RFPs -- the hidden requirements that can make or break an application, and

• how to get an organization truly grant-ready — not just on paper, but with the capacity to manage the work.

• why the human side of building relationships even in the often opaque government grant space is important

Episode highlights:

[00:08:17] Clearing Up Misconceptions About Government Grants

[00:09:24] The Challenge of Reading RFPs

[00:11:48] Why It Matters Who Writes the RFP

[00:13:49] The Hidden Details in Grant Links

[00:16:02] Budget Pitfalls in Grant Applications

[00:17:32] Federal vs. State and Local Funding

[00:20:08] Balancing Risk, Reward, and Compliance

[00:23:18] Shifting Grant Strategies Amid Funding Freezes

[00:25:45] Building True Grant Readiness

[00:28:40] How to Research Relevant Funding Streams

[00:30:56] The Often-Overlooked Human Element

[00:32:31] The Bottom Line: Alignment and Capacity

Guest Bio:

Justine founded Gold Dust Grants in January 2023 after almost 10 years in the nonprofit field. She's an Intersectional Professional with a background rooted in reproductive justice, a B.A. from UC Berkeley, and over six years of dedicated institutional grant writing experience, bringing in almost $12 million as Lead Writer. As a consultant, she leverages her experience in nonprofit contracts & compliance, and her legal studies background, to help nonprofits submit clear and cohesive proposals with a strong case for support. While the bulk of her grant experience is writing for Transition-Age Youth programs (ages 14-25), she also has extensive experience in: Housing, Mental Health, Workforce Development, and LGBTQIA+ services. She has worked on successful proposals totaling over $25 million in awards funded

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Justine Krank

Gold Dust Grants Consulting

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