Kelsi and Celeste discuss the recession and debate how a creator economy is affecting the workforce. The conversation begins by exploring current content trends and expands into work ethic in general.

They also discuss  why it's important to cut distractions out and party less when you are pursuing your goals and to trust the process even when it gets lonely or boring. 

Additionally, Celeste goes over her current morning routine and Kelsi talks about how they're evolving their business, VIPER into casting. 

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