Our friend Avi Garelick joins us to discuss his recent piece on the war between Ron DeSantis and the Disney Corporation in Florida, as we explore the longer history of Florida's extraordinary relationship to the Disney brand. Along the way, we talk about Sean Baker's haunting film The Florida Project, the weird politics and aesthetics of "New Urbanism," and the current direction of housing politics in American cities.

Check out our subscribers-only podcast series on Disney's wild history:

Ep 1 - Time is a Flat Circle: https://www.patreon.com/posts/trap-tv-brick-is-74949645

Ep 2 - Uncle Walt Goes to War: https://www.patreon.com/posts/trap-tv-brick-to-75566223

Ep 3 - Space Cowboys: https://www.patreon.com/posts/trap-tv-brick-76267538