In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury, along with guests Santis Beatty and Amy Boyle, engages in a light-hearted yet profound discussion about commonly used Christian phrases that have become clichés. They explore the implications of these phrases, their performative nature, and the need for more authentic communication in faith contexts. Through a draft-style format, they each select phrases they believe should be retired, providing insights into why these phrases can be problematic and suggesting more meaningful alternatives. Enjoy this engaging episode, and share your own phrases in the comments that you would choose to retire!

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided By: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Key Notes:

Cliché phrases can dilute the authenticity of faith conversations.

Performative language often overshadows genuine support.

It's important to take responsibility in our expressions of care.

Many common phrases can be harmful or misleading.

Encouragement should be rooted in relationship, not just words.

Being present in someone's pain is more valuable

Authentic communication fosters deeper connections in faith communities.

Greetings Listeners! In this episode of the Not That Kind of Christian podcast, David engages in a deep conversation about immigration, faith, and the experiences of immigrants in the United States. Joined by guests Carlos Deyes and Zach Szmara, the discussion explores the biblical perspective on immigration, the complexities of the immigration system, and the role of the church in providing support and advocacy for immigrants. We hope you enjoy this impactful conversation!

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided By: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Key Notes:

Immigration is a polarizing issue in American life.

Every immigrant's story is unique and complex.

Chronic uncertainty is a common experience for many immigrants.

The church can play a vital role in supporting immigrants.

Understanding the immigration system is crucial for compassion.

People first, politics later is a guiding principle.

Immigrants can be agents of mission within the church.

The immigration system is often a maze with moving walls.

Engaging with immigrant stories can foster empathy and understanding.

Hello and welcome to another episode of Not That Kind of Christian! In this conversation, guest Yamil Acevedo explores the complexities of cultural identity, particularly focusing on his experiences as a Puerto Rican in the United States. He discusses the challenges of being categorized within broader Latino identities and the personal struggles that arise from cultural expectations and differences. We hope you enjoy this discussion with our executive producer!

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided by: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Key Notes:

There are challenges to cultural identity and expectations in the US.

Its essential to understand individual cultural nuances

Too often, it is found that cultures are generalized as groups

In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury engages in a heartfelt conversation with his guests, who have extensive experience living and working among Muslims. They discuss the misconceptions and stereotypes that many Christians hold about Islam, emphasizing the humanity and commonalities shared between Christians and Muslims. We hope you enjoy this conversation!

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided by: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Key Notes:

Building relationships with Muslims can lead to meaningful conversations.

Many Muslims are open to discussing faith and spirituality.

Hospitality is a powerful way to connect.

Children can bridge cultural gaps and foster friendships.

Understanding the concept of unreached people is crucial for missions.

Engaging in conversations about Jesus should be done respectfully and thoughtfully.

The mission of God is to reach all nations with the gospel.

Hello Listeners! In this entertaining episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David and his guests compete in a draft to have the strangest commands in the bible. Elaine, Ken, and John provide both contextual understanding and humor as they journey through the scriptures to find these commands. Let us know who you think had the best draft!

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided by: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Key Notes:

- Context of the commands provides clarity for how they apply

- The commands set the people apart at the time

- The commands find a resolution in the New Testament

- Looking back at the commands can still influence how we live today

Welcome back to another episode of Not That Kind of Christian! In this conversation, Joshua McNall delves into the Hebrew word 'hesed', exploring its multifaceted meanings and implications in the context of love, mercy, humility, and pride. He discusses the challenges of translating this term and its significance in understanding biblical texts. We hope you enjoy!

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided by: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Key Notes:

- The Hebrew word 'hesed' encompasses love and mercy.

- Different translations use up to 14 English words for 'hesed'.

- The semantic range of 'hesed' is broad and complex.

- Justice and mercy are not contradictory in Hebrew scriptures.

- Micah 6:8 presents a harmonious relationship between justice and mercy.

- The interplay of love and mercy is central to biblical theology.

- The concept of 'hesed' invites deeper reflection on moral actions.

In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury and his guests discuss the multifaceted nature of injustice, particularly focusing on poverty, human trafficking, and the role of the gospel in addressing these issues. The guests share personal experiences and insights on how to empower communities and address systemic injustices. We hope you enjoy this discussion!

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided by: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Key Notes:

- Injustice is often seen as a political issue, but it is fundamentally a moral and spiritual problem.

- Everyone is made in the image of God, which gives them inherent value and rights.

- Poverty is not just an economic issue; it is a lack of access to basic needs.

- Human trafficking is one of the most urgent injustices of our time, with over 50 million people enslaved globally.

- Awareness and education are key in combating human trafficking and other injustices.

- The church has a role in advocating for refugees and displaced persons.

- Empowerment of individuals is crucial for community transformation.

- Greed and power are root causes of many injustices in the world today.

- Access to the gospel is a significant injustice that needs to be addressed.

In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury engages with guests Steve DeNeff and Hannah Lindsay to explore the intersection of faith and work. They discuss how Christians can integrate their faith into their daily work lives, the importance of recognizing the people around them, and the power of prayer in the workplace. We hope you enjoy this conversation!

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided by: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Key Notes from the Episode:

- Many Christians separate their faith from their work life.

- Teaching can be seen as a calling, not just a job.

- Prayer can create a sense of belonging in the workplace.

- Recognizing coworkers as part of your calling is essential.

- Creating a safe space for sharing and prayer is important.

- Pastors can equip their congregations to live out their faith at work.

- The language of calling can elevate everyday work.

- Prayer is a non-threatening way to show love and support.

- Everyone has the opportunity to impact others through love.

Welcome to "Not That Kind of Christian," a podcast that focuses on the heart, hope, and humor of challenging topics. In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury engages with his guests Mark Forrester and Gloria Lopez to explore the complex relationship between social media and faith. They discuss the dual nature of social media as both a tool for connection and a source of anxiety, emphasizing the importance of intentionality and purpose in its use. We hope that you enjoy this conversation as you listen in!

Key Notes from the Episode:

- Social media plays a crucial role in professional and personal life.

- Having a purpose is essential when using social media.

- Social media can lead to comparison and pride.

- Algorithms can create echo chambers and tribalism.

- There are positive opportunities for outreach through social media.

- Engaging with followers is key to effective communication.

- Diversity in communication is important for reaching broader audiences.

- Setting boundaries with social media is necessary for mental health.

- Social media can be a tool for spreading hope and the gospel.

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided by: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Welcome to the "Not That Kind of Christian" podcast! "Not That Kind of Christian" is a podcast where tough topics meet heart, hope, and humor. Hosted by David Drury, each episode is an honest, down-to-earth conversation with people who care about living out their faith in the real world. We’ve dumped the outrage and insider jargon. Instead, we want to have thoughtful, relatable dialogue about the questions real Christians are asking right now. It’s a space where faith can hold tension, welcome laughter, and offer practical wisdom for everyday life. If you’ve ever thought, “I’m a Christian… just not that kind,” this is for you.

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided by: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.