This week I spiraled out with comedian, writer, and total mensch Josh Gondelman! (Desus & Mero, Last Week Tonight With John Oliver, People Pleaser.)  We talked the god-awful experience of having a human body, the desire to control others' perceptions,  the psychology of Elon Musk, and so much more. 
Plus, Josh shares a shame story about his body absolutely betraying him,  minutes before his in-laws would arrive to bear witness to the literal mess it made. 
 
Follow Josh on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok @joshgondelman,  and check his website www.joshgondelman.com for upcoming national tour dates, or if you're in NYC,   to buy tickets for his show 12/12 at Union Hall! 
 
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok @elykreimendahl, and the pod on Twitter and Instagram @podshamespiral, where I'm regularly posting fun video clips of especially juicy or hilarious moments from the episodes.  

Audio Engineer/Editor: Sarah Gabrielli (check out her amazing podcast about the last lesbian bars in America @cruisingpod on Instagram and TikTok and listen here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cruising-a-lesbian-bar-road-trip/id1585850925

Original Music: Shadwick Wilde, Instagram and Twitter: @shadwickwilde

Cover Art: Cassidy Kulhanek, Instagram, Twitter and TikTok: @heavenlygrandpa

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