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Nothing to Prove: Jeff Gokee on Abandoning Achievement for Abiding


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Mindy Caliguire welcomes Jeff Gokee to Soulcare Conversations to discuss the crucial intersection of spiritual formation and leadership.

Jeff, a pastor for 27 years, shares his personal journey from a life spent in "go mode" and fulfilling others' dreams to a turning point that demanded soul health.

This transformation began when, at age 40, he asked the invasive question, "What if it's me?".

His path included six years of counseling, discovering that he had repressed all emotions, and a harrowing cancer diagnosis (which miraculously disappeared).

The doctor's words—"You're really sick... and your mind has told you you're fine"—served as a dramatic wake-up call from God. Jeff realized he had never asked God for help for himself.

His experience led him to embrace the idea of "not wasting the pain" and relaunch his non-profit, Phoenix One, with a new mission: to help church staff and leaders get healthy in their souls and relationships.

He explains how leading from a place of "nothing to prove and no one to impress" allows him to prioritize people and service over achievement and scale.

Jeff and Mindy discuss the challenge of bringing implementation and pathways to soulful leadership and how Phoenix One's services, like the Love Well assessment app and staff health evaluations, are providing safe spaces for honesty and healing within church organizations.

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