Retired Intelligence Detective Gary Jenkins brings you the best in mob history with his unique perception of the mafia. In this episode, Gary talks with retired NYPD cop turned-author Vic Ferrari. Vic has written several books depicting his experiences as an NYPD officer and detective. They discuss a recent documentary, Blue Code of Silence, and a narrative movie about the same subject, Prince of the City. Vic and Gary discuss the problems of working with Federal law enforcement when uncovering corruption within a police department.

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Gary Jenkins: [00:41:00] Well, hey guys, Gary Jenkins here, retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit detective. I’m here with my good friend Vic Ferrari, another retired copper out of New York City. Welcome,

Viv Ferrari: Vic. Hey, Gary, how you doing today? Thank you for having

Gary Jenkins: me on your show. Well, it’s really great to have you back. I love talking to you.

Gary Jenkins: You know, it’s kind of like, you know, I sit down with my buddies once a while, about I don’t know, once a week, he’s easily for coffee or we go play golf and we, you know, we ended up telling old war stories. Of course it is. There’s such an ease between coppers and their life, right?

Viv Ferrari: We speak the same language.

Gary Jenkins: It’s funny. It’s, it’s, it’s a club, I guess. We have our own little club. It’s like the Palma Boys social club that Tony Fat Tony Salerno had, or the Bergen Hunt and Fish Club Ravenite that Gotti

Viv Ferrari: had. Yeah. I never saw the rate. Well, I did see the Ravenight years later, the Bergen Hunt and Fish club. I never saw, but the Palmer boys.

Viv Ferrari: Yeah. Remember

Gary Jenkins: that one, that one. [00:42:00] So anyhow, of course, this, this podcast is mainly about organized crime, but we like to spin off into other things. I’ve got a ton. I’ve got 400 and some organized crime stories out there, probably 375, but I like to spin off and other things. I’d like to give you guys. Kind of a little inside look at police department and police officers, detectives, and how we work with other agencies, particularly the FBI, the U S attorney’s office.

Gary Jenkins: Now happened to be watch actually Ken Couture, one of my Facebook guys that helps me administer my administrate my podcast group on Facebook posted a link or a post about a documentary called the Code Blue of silence. It was a, if you remember seeing the movie about the Prince of the city and this NYPD detective, Bob Lucy, who ended up working with us attorney’s office and the FBI and, and exposed a lot of corruption and both [00:43:00] in, in lawyers and bail bondsmen and, and other cops and in the court system in New York city.

Gary Jenkins: And I remember watching that movie Prince of the city. Back in the early seventies and it, like it brought it home, you know, working with the U S attorney’s office and Vic and I were talking just before we turned on the recorder here is like, it’s like dealing with a steamroller. If you get in their way, they’re just going to power over you.

Gary Jenkins: You got to do exactly what they want. And Bob Leuci found that out. And so I watched this Code Blue of Silence, which by the way, guys, I’d recommend is a really good documentary. I found it on Plax, PLAX.