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A label can erase a lineage—and a lineage can unlock a nation. We brought together two powerful voices, Minister Kevin Ali and Brother Cosmo El, to test the foundations of identity: is nationality a matter of bloodline and birthright under law, or a living nation established by divine decree that outlives borders and bureaucracies? What follows is a lucid, energetic exchange that challenges assumptions and offers real tools for reclaiming status, culture, and governance.

Cosmo El walks us through Moorish Science’s two-part framework—divine creed and nationality—and why renouncing the chattel terms Negro, Black, and Colored is essential to political recognition. He traces lineage from Moors to Moriscos to the modern “Negro,” grounding nationality in consanguinity and jus soli, and explaining why a jural society, identification documents, and records are practical steps toward rights, inheritance, and reparative claims. The argument is clear: without a recognized national name, communities remain vulnerable under law.

Minister Kevin Ali brings the Nation of Islam’s sweeping view: Islam as a complete way of life, government, and civilization that defines a nation beyond colonial maps. He points to stateless nations, diplomatic receptions, and the flag of Islam to show how nationhood can exist without territory. Drawing on layers of law—eternal, divine, natural, and positive—he argues that God’s declaration of a nation supersedes modern boundaries and that building institutions is the path to durable power.

Across the conversation, we weigh flags and identity cards, scripture and statutes, heritage and statecraft. The tension is productive: one pathway centers international legitimacy through bloodline and documentation; the other centers divine mandate and institution-building that persists despite recognition. Both reject imposed labels and call for clear identity, culture, and structure. You’ll leave with a sharper definition of nationality, a richer sense of history, and practical ideas to move from label to lineage and from belief to power.

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What if everything you’ve been told about Freemasonry’s roots is only part of the story? We trace the emergence of the Ancient Free Moorish Rite through the life and work of Dr. Clifford E. Hazel Bey, a Most Puissant Sovereign Grand Commander who spent decades unearthing the African and Moorish origins of the craft. His careful strategy—first allowing Moorish attire and identity within Scottish Rite spaces, then publicly inaugurating the Rite in Newark in 2001—wasn’t theatrics; it was the foundation for a living, disciplined tradition.

Across the hour, members speak plainly about what drew them in and what keeps them committed. Prince Yahoshi describes finding a spiritual order that holds the Asiatic self at the center, without chasing degrees for their own sake. Adir shares a path from Moorish Science and self-study to a fraternity that finally fit. Akhet, raised Pentecostal in Brooklyn, explains how he moved from existential doubt to a grounded practice that unites scholarship, ritual, and everyday accountability. Sanchez and Gill illustrate fraternity by deed, not talk—showing how loyalty and service are the Rite’s proof points.

This isn’t abstract philosophy. The Rite defines itself as a divine spiritual order focused on character, unity, and application. Initiation is the beginning of a journey on the compass, not a finish line. Members stress a code that translates into daily life: be loyal, live clean, build with intention, and stand for one another. That culture—paired with a historical corrective about Freemasonry’s Moorish and African lineage—creates a space where scholarship meets transformation and fraternity is earned.

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What does it mean to refuse a holiday but still wish someone joy? We open with a disarming stance: fasting through the commercial frenzy of the season while respecting people who celebrate to honor Jesus. That thought—persuasion over pressure—becomes the spine of a wide-ranging conversation about faith, authority, and the purpose of a “New Nation of Islam.”

Our guest argues that real influence is measured by changed minds, not coerced behavior. He lays out a philosophy of safety and nonviolence where the sharpest blade is an idea that withstands questions. From there we go straight at the big claim: if the Nation of Islam still exists, why create something “new”? His answer centers on verification, not replacement. Earlier messengers spoke in symbols; his role, he says, is to harmonize the Bible, the Quran, and Elijah Muhammad’s teachings so their logic is plain and consistent. Think choir, not solo: many voices, one key.

We press on structure. Instead of rote memorization tiers, he teaches an integrated curriculum: scripture and prior teachings studied together with a focus on comprehension and coherence. He explains symbols like the twin crescents—decline versus increase—as signs of where confusion spreads and where understanding grows. Even when fielding pointed history questions, he brings the discussion back to purpose: are we using knowledge to civilize our conduct, or to score points? By the end, the throughline is clear—belief grounded in proof, community grounded in peace, and an open door to challenge the claims in live, interactive classes.

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What if “student enrollment” isn’t a phrase from an old booklet but a call to re-educate a people for leadership? We sit with Minister Eric Muhammad to unpack the Supreme Wisdom lessons, why language like “Asiatic” stretches beyond continents, and how claims like maker, owner, and God of the universe demand disciplined study rather than hype. From the opening minutes, we set a study-first tone: enroll your mind, learn the curriculum, and qualify yourself to lead.

We break down the first degrees with precision and pair them with a starter reading plan using Message to the Black Man in America. You’ll hear why chapter one aligns with the original man, how later chapters explore the devil and Islam, and where “What the Muslims Want/Believe” sharpens the program of separation and rejoining. Along the way, we tackle the “cream rises” metaphor as both social analysis and daily practice: when agitation stops, excellence surfaces. That means cutting distraction, reclaiming peace, and doing the quiet work that builds mastery.

The conversation also takes on population figures, the scope of the “original nation,” and the difference between learning from authorized sources versus rumor mills. Expect strong views on chain of command, study ethics, and the difference between performative talk and qualified teaching. Whether you come for theology, history, or practical growth, the throughline is simple: choose rigorous study, use precise language, and measure progress by how you serve family and community.

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What happens when a nation is treated like an organization? We open the mic to a direct, documented challenge and walk through the fault lines between the Nation of Islam and the Final Call—where the split began, why it accelerated, and what it cost. From court filings and 501c3s to the removal of chairs and the disbanding of FOI and MGT, we trace how paperwork and policy reshaped power, ritual, and the very meaning of sovereignty.

Kevin Ali brings a sharp lens to nationality, Moorish roots, and the claim that Islam is not just a religion but a civilizational identity for a people determined to govern themselves. We explore the difference between ritual and action: why FOI and MGT classes forged discipline and duty, how drill and collective training rehabilitated men, and why replacing participatory teaching with “self-improvement” changed outcomes on the ground. The debate over prayer and fasting becomes a larger question about signs versus ceremonies—do forms serve liberation, or do they become a refuge from responsibility?

Together we revisit pivotal shifts after 1975, the reframing of titles and authority, and the long echo of those choices in today’s culture. Expect respectful nods to shared roots with the Moorish Science Temple, honest contrasts with Sunni orthodoxy, and a firm insistence that shared lineage doesn’t erase real differences. Along the way, we lift up community with a missing-brother alert and an open door for leaders willing to engage on record.

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What does commitment look like when you strip away letters, titles, and ceremony? We sit down with a leader who claims the mantle of Son of Man and maps a membership path built on daily classes, steady practice, and a radical return to scripture as the supreme wisdom. No X, no dining out, no pork; one meal a day if you choose it. The frame is submission to truth, not pageantry—discipline in food, speech, and patience, with accountability offered as a brother’s reminder rather than a rank’s command.

We dig into the core: why past tools like the letter mattered then, and why he retired them now. He lays out general orders adapted from military roots so any member knows what to do when no one is watching. He defines God as the grantor of dominion and argues that dominion rests on truth, with the Bible and Qur’an read together to train a righteous life. The five pillars stand—oneness of God, prophets and scripture, prayer, charity, fasting—with his clarifications around Ramadan and the purpose of practice over performance.

The conversation turns tangible with an emphasis on work over talk. He points to an auditorium built by members as evidence that unity plus skill creates sustainable power. His flag—two lunar quarters bracketing a star—symbolizes first and last, justice, truth, and the vast unknown in black that still belongs to them. Whether you embrace or challenge his claims, you’ll come away with a clear map: fewer symbols, more study; fewer ranks, more responsibility; less nostalgia, more building.

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What if the labels you use every day quietly decide your legal status, your rights, and how institutions treat you? We take a clear-eyed walk through Act Six of the Moorish Science Temple of America’s Divine Constitution and Bylaws and dig into why nationality is more than a word. With Brother Cozmo El, we explore how terms like Negro, black, and colored became chattel identifiers, how those labels lingered after emancipation, and why reclaiming a free national name—El or Bey—paired with record correction changes how systems recognize you.

We connect the dots between history, law, and lived reality: Article 15 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, indigenous rights to nationality, and the difference between being “treated as if” under civil rights and standing on constitutional and natural rights as a people. This isn’t a consciousness trend. It’s a practical pathway to self-governance—organizing a body politic, building institutions, and moving like other hyphenated American communities that turn shared identity into social capital, economic engines, and political leverage.

We don’t dodge the tough parts. Factions exist, but so do conventions, coalitions, and leaders who serve by feeding families, educating children, and caring for elders. We lay out specific steps: study to unlearn indoctrination, proclaim nationality through a recognized body, annex your surname with a national suffix to preserve lineage, and correct your records so your identity matches your nation. If you’ve wondered how names, status, and rights intersect—or how to turn belief into durable power—this conversation offers a grounded roadmap.

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A drumbeat can change the room—and if you listen closely, it can change how you see spirit, ancestry, and yourself. We sit down with Papa Mystique to unravel Haitian Vodou as a living science: the nations that shape energy, the rhythms that open doors, and the ethics that keep service grounded. From Flatbush roots and a grandmother mambo to time in Haitian lakou, this story reveals practice as lineage, discipline, and deep respect for nature.

We map the nations by feel—Rada’s steady grace, Petwo’s heat, Gede’s wry pulse, Nago’s martial edge—and explore Ezili as two distinct frequencies. Freda aligns you with elegance, luck, and beauty; Dantor stands guard with justice and protection. The hounfò becomes more than a temple: it’s community choreography, with the peristyle as meeting ground and the poto mitan as axis where possession can arrive. Papa Mystique explains crisis lwa, why some houses spray rum without disrespect, and how lineages differ—Asogwe’s uniform regleman versus the varied familial currents of Leve Sèvenn and Makout.

Language carries power here. Langaj is coded speech that protects precision and transmits craft. We talk daily ancestor honor through jeté dlo, why we turn rightward as we pour, and how the ritual year follows the seasons. In Makaya time we shed what’s dead, cleanse, and reset; with spring we invite Freda’s growth and good fortune. Tradition evolves with discernment—Florida Water finds its place, Reiki may complement healing, but not everything belongs. We name the syncretic threads—African, Taíno, and Catholic—and the responsibility to serve with integrity, seek proper readings, and follow through when called.

If you’re curious about Vodou beyond the myths, this conversation offers an inside map: practical, respectful, and rooted. Grab Papa Mystique’s book, Mysteries of Haitian Vodou, for deeper study, and come back ready to question, listen, and align with the rhythm. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves culture and spirituality, and leave a review with your biggest insight or question—we’ll bring it into a future show.

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History sounds different when you hear it from people who can name the teachers, show the paperwork, and walk you through the venues where outcomes actually change. We sit down with Dr. Alim El Bey and Chief Jelani Bey to break open Moorish identity, Washita lineage, and the legal frameworks that so often get flattened into memes or headlines. No shortcuts here—just credentials, case experience, and a willingness to trace names, treaties, and terms back to the records that anchor them.

We start by challenging the “pseudo” tag with decades of study in sociology, history, legal studies, metaphysics, and initiatory work. Then we map the early 2000s organizing that shaped the movement’s regional structure, connecting the Moorish Science Temple of America and Washita matriarchal lines. Cherokee and Ani Yunwiya ties enter through surnames and historical rolls, not costume or stereotype, pushing us to look past commercial images of Native identity. This is where language matters: Black, Negro, Indian, indigenous, Moor—each carries etymology, legal weight, and consequences for standing and recognition.

The legal section is a masterclass on venue and process. Municipal courts aren’t built to hear constitutional arguments, and many high-profile losses trace back to that mismatch. The conversation digs into contracts, estate trusts, administrative versus common law, and how dismissals, seals, and erasures operate as quiet wins that rarely hit the internet. Sovereignty is reframed away from “sovereign citizen” into nationality, treaty history, and jurisdiction—invoking the Treaty of Peace and Friendship and the influence of indigenous confederacies on constitutional design.

We also explore Washita land claims, Spanish and French grants, and the contested narrative of the Louisiana Purchase, emphasizing Creole lineages and Haitian French ties. Finally, we open the door to a future deep dive on Black nobility across Europe—Habsburgs, Stewarts, and the Moorish presence etched into statues, pharmacies, and surnames. If you care about identity, land, and law—and how they collide in real courtrooms and communities—this conversation offers a demanding, detailed path forward.

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Ever felt a room shift when someone throws up a sign? We follow that spark into a deeper current—how hand gestures, stars, crescents, and pyramids traveled from temples and texts into Chicago “nations” and LA streets, and what was lost when the meaning got stripped away. Mikey Fever sits down with Crip Jesus to chart a living archive he calls the Blue Bible, blending firsthand stories from juvenile halls and prison yards with research on Black P Stone, Vice Lords, and the early Egyptian Cobras. Instead of sensational tales, we surface the connective tissue: the Main 21, Morocco’s red flag, “the Five,” and how tags function like public hieroglyphics, broadcasting to insiders while hiding from outsiders.

We unpack the era when Panthers traded shots with LAPD, the creation of SWAT, and the ideological split fostered by cultural fronts like US Organization. Across that backdrop, Jeff Fort’s transition to the Moorish Science Temple and the El Rukin identity reframed gang structure as nationhood, with all the geopolitical consequences that came with claims of sovereignty. Inside prison, status as a Five Percenter opened doors to oral histories that rarely hit print, showing how knowledge is exchanged peer-to-peer, lesson-by-lesson, rather than handed down by institutions.

The conversation also reclaims origins: a Crip Constitution authored by Danifu Kareem Bey and a service-first definition of CRIP that predates the doom loop of headlines. We examine how chemicals, ego, and media recoded masculinity and militancy as pathology, isolating powerful disciplines that other communities normalize. And we return to the central challenge—what do we do with a symbol that still carries charge? Restore it, retire it, or re-educate around it? Our aim is simple: put the missing middle back into the story so choices can be conscious, not inherited.

If this hit you, share it with someone who reads tags like glyphs or someone who only sees chaos where there was once code. Subscribe, rate the show, and drop a review with the symbol or story that shifted your view. Your take might be the next link in this chain.

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