In this edition of the OctoPulse podcast, Ted Kulfan takes a look at the Red Wings at the 20-game mark, on pace for 74 points and out of the playoffs for the ninth straight year.

He also talks about the unlikely possibility of Steve Yzerman making the third coaching change in the NHL (Bruins fired Jim Montgomery, who replaced Drew Bannister of the Blues on Sunday), the upside of defenseman Jeff Petry perhaps in his final year in Detroit and how first-round draft pick Marco Kasper is outplaying J.T. Compher as the second-line center.

In addition, Mike Keenan is the interview guest. In Keenan's book, "Iron Mike: My Life Behind the Bench," he details for the first time two meetings he had with Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch about coaching and managing the team, which could've changed the course of Red Wings history for good, bad, or indifferent.