Winged Wheel Podcast - A Detroit Red Wings Podcast

Two straight wins for the first time this season! This Detroit Red Wings podcast brings the Red Wings vs Flyers and Sharks recaps, from Anton Johansson's first NHL goal in a 2-1 win to Moritz Seider's stalwart play & Lucas Raymond's shootout winner in Saturday's comeback.

(00:00) - Intro & Rasmussen Reverse Jinx

Calling out Michael Rasmussen's point drought last episode worked!

(05:30) - Red Wings Game Recaps

Johansson skips a line change coming out of the penalty box to score on a two-on-one, and Andrew Copp buries the late winner against a winless Philadelphia team. Down 3-1 in the third to San Jose, Detroit gets more stellar play from Finnie & MBN, Alex DeBrincat's tying goal with about a minute and a half left, and nearly 30 minutes from Moritz Seider.

(31:30) - Bernard-Docker On Waivers

Jacob Bernard-Docker, signed through next season at $1.6 million, goes unclaimed and heads to Grand Rapids, a vote of confidence in Detroit's young right-handed defensemen.

(36:20) - Edvinsson Sighting

Simon Edvinsson pops up at a Colgate women's hockey pregame skate in a Red Wings practice jersey and a Boston University helmet - sign a contract is close, or just noise?

(39:10) - Larkin Montreal Trade Theory & Red Wings Notess

Ryan's tinfoil-hat theory is that Detroit and Montreal both want to settle Larkin's trade request together, with Canadiens prospect Michael Hage as the dream return, even though most call him a non-starter. Plus, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard sits tied for second in rookie scoring playing alongside 1C Emmitt Finnie, and the Rangers kick tires on goalies with John Gibson's name in the mix.

(53:05) - Ilitch on Horcoff's Future

Chris Ilitch tells a group of reporters that interim GM Shawn Horcoff is a candidate to have the tag removed but the GM/President of Hockey Ops search continues, right after Horcoff got the Alex DeBrincat contract done. Is Horcoff the president of hockey ops type? What's his path where he stays on as GM under one?

(01:00:05) - Hellebuyck Suspension Fallout

The Jets suspended Connor Hellebuyck without pay for about three weeks after he skipped training camp to push for a trade. With captain Adam Lowry saying there'll have to be a conversation, will Winnipeg play him at all?

(01:04:05) - Overtime Mailbag

Your questions on trading for Oilers forward Isaac Howard and MBN's Calder odds. Plus, why running 11 forwards and seven defensemen is the right lineup call and how Todd McLellan is deploying the kids.

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Alex DeBrincat signs a seven-year, $91 million extension with the Red Wings, and this Detroit Red Wings podcast grades the deal and asks why Simon Edvinsson still isn't signed. Plus a Red Wings vs Devils recap of the 5-4 overtime loss, six games into the season.

(00:00) - Intro

A rare bit of optimism in Hockeytown as the DeBrincat extension news landed. Detroit finally gets a win, and everyone takes a turn at "we're so back."

(04:50) - DeBrincat Extension Breakdown

Alex DeBrincat stays with his hometown team for seven more years at $13 million a season. Our full contract breakdown and grade, details on trade protections, and a why it may be a statement from interim GM Shawn Horcoff and ownership that they'll take care of their guys.

(16:05) - Red Wings Retool Timeline

Committing to DeBrincat through age 36 rules out a teardown, even for a team with one win so far. Is this a two-to-three-year retool around Moritz Seider, Lucas Raymond, and the young core, or can it happen next season - and how much does the Dylan Larkin trade decide that?

(23:25) - Edvinsson Contract Standoff

Simon Edvinsson is headed back to North America to skate with a trainer his agency set up, but no trade or signing is done. Shawn Horcoff says he has "zero interest" in trading him - so after the DeBrincat deal, is the pressure finally on Edvinsson?

(37:35) - Devils Game Recap

Emmitt Finnie buries a perfect stretch pass from Michael Brandsegg-Nygard to give Detroit life, and Finnie returns the favor in the second. Alex DeBrincat ties it twice, but Jack Hughes wins it 5-4 on an overtime breakaway after a high-risk three-on-three pass from Raymond.

(47:30) - Raymond Demotion & Rasmussen Drought

Practice lines drop Lucas Raymond onto a line with Michael Rasmussen, and the numbers are brutal: 32 NHL goalies have recorded a point since Rasmussen's last one on January 5. Plus, Dylan Larkin still looks hurt - do you sit him while his trade request stands?

(58:50) - Griffins Prospect Update

Michal Postava opens 3-0 for the Grand Rapids Griffins with a 1.34 GAA and player of the week honors, making him the next goalie up in Detroit. Jesse Kiiskinen's seven points in five games make the case for a call-up, and Carter Bear scores his first goal.

(01:04:00) - Overtime Mailbag

Patron questions on Nate Danielson's slow start, whether a defenseman like Landon DuPont changes a franchise the way a center does, and Gary Bettman's look at movement clauses. Plus, Shawn Horcoff and Kris Draper scouting Danila Yurov as the Dylan Larkin trade talks continue.

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Red Wings vs. Kraken & Canadiens recaps: Detroit blows a lead in a 6-3 loss, then falls 1-0 in a shootout. This Detroit Red Wings podcast also covers Simon Edvinsson's contract standoff & Bell Centre fans chanting for Dylan Larkin amid his trade request.

(00:00) - Intro

Wild times in the world of Hockeytown - is this Detroit's "gas leak" season?

(04:00) - Kraken & Canadiens Losses

William Wallinder and Michael Brandsegg-Nygard score their first NHL goals, but the Red Wings melted down and, as Todd McLellan put it, "the team got lazy and complacent". On the second night of the back-to-back, Daniil Tarasov is perfect through regulation, overtime and five shootout rounds while three goals get taken off the board, and Detroit still couldn't score.

(24:10) - Nate Danielson & Shootout Choice

Discussion on the offensive vs. defensive value of the Andrew Copp line. Also, Nate Danielson is playing without any confidence, and the hosts split on sending him out for the sixth round of the shootout.

(35:50) - "We Want Larkin" Chant

There's no playbook for a home crowd chanting for the visiting team's former captain while he's asking out of Detroit. Why Michael Hage isn't on the table, why Dylan Larkin likely isn't heading north of the border, & why Todd McLellan shut down questions about the distraction.

(43:30) - Simon Edvinsson Contract Watch

A report says Simon Edvinsson still prefers a trade while the Red Wings say they want to sign him, with a December 1 deadline looming. Why $10 million, just 9.62% of this year's cap, is the overpay worth making, and why Utah is the rumored front-runner if it comes to a trade.

(01:01:00) - Shesterkin Injury & Gibson Trade

With Igor Shesterkin out for the season, the hosts argue Detroit should call the Rangers about John Gibson now, likely for around a second-round pick.

(01:04:25) - Overtime Mailbag

Patrons ask how far Detroit has to sink before management acts, and one prediction is that they stand pat until a Justin Faulk trade for a second at the deadline. Plus, the top power play unit, why a $77 million, seven-year offer sheet for Edvinsson would cost four first-round picks, and whether trading him makes sense.

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Dylan Larkin is back, trade request and all, as Detroit grabs its first win of the season, 5-3. This Detroit Red Wings podcast has the Red Wings vs Senators recap, updates on the Simon Edvinsson contract standoff, & Justin Faulk's highlight reel goal.

(00:00) - Intro

Justin Faulk splits the D and buries one from a tough angle, and Emmitt Finnie throws down in the end-of-period yard sale as we're finally talking positive hockey.

(04:00) - Larkin's Return & Trade Outlook

Dylan Larkin gets booed on his first shift but earns applause by the end with a goal, an assist and some sticking up for his teammates. Could a soft October schedule have Detroit overly optimistic about keeping him, or would Larkin ever consider changing his mind?

(23:15) - Senators Game Recap

Alex DeBrincat scores twice, including the empty-netter, and Lucas Raymond racks up three assists. Carter Mazur and William Wallinder each pick up their first career NHL point. Justin Faulk hits 500 career points including an amazing individual effort.

(39:30) - Edvinsson Contract Talks

The Edvinsson talks are stuck on AAV, with one reported Red Wings offer at six years and about $8.5 million. Detroit is fielding calls on a trade return, but we still say "pay the tax" and get him signed.

(46:45) - Kasper Injury & Scouting Reshuffle

Marco Kasper and Mason Appleton land on IR, both listed week to week. Shawn Horcoff's changes so far: Kris Draper moves over to lead Pro Scouting, Jesse Wallin leads Amateur Scouting, and Mark Leach returns to the amateur scouting staff.

(52:40) - Panthers Woes & Ovechkin Farewell

Florida loses Aleksander Barkov for roughly eight weeks, and Brad Marchand hurts his knee. Alex Ovechkin makes his final season official, and Calgary's Connor Zary clears waivers.

(57:45) - Overtime Mailbag

Patron questions on Viktor Arvidsson's two-way game and Larkin calling himself a "hockey player" in his post-game interview. Plus, lower-tier prospects who could surprise and whether a reconciliation is still possible.

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Simon Edvinsson reportedly "prefers a trade", & this Detroit Red Wings podcast is fuming over the botched Red Wings contract talks behind it. Plus, Red Wings vs Rangers & Jets recaps, from Dylan Larkin & ownership's opening-night boos to Sunday's 3-2 loss.

(00:00) - Intro

Two games into the season and the off-ice circus has already made them feel meaningless.

(03:05) - Simon Edvinsson Trade Report

Elliotte Friedman reported Saturday night that Simon Edvinsson would prefer be traded, frustrated with how Detroit has handled negotiations. Why a 15-month contract standoff lands on Chris Ilitch and ownership, especially after Edvinsson voluntarily reported to camp.

(24:15) - Contract Numbers & Cap Space

Why Detroit has to eat the "you suck tax" and pay up even if the AAV creeps toward $12M (well over Moritz Seider's), with worlds of cap space over the next three seasons. Plus, what an Edvinsson trade could bring back & whether Horcoff could win that deal.

(39:25) - Fans Boo Dylan Larkin

Standing with the healthy scratches, Dylan Larkin got what might be the loudest boo in Little Caesars Arena history before the "sell the team" chants kicked in. Also, is his trade request the same as Edvinsson's situation?

(49:05) - Rangers Home Opener Shutout

Marco Kasper fought Sean Durzi, and the defense hasn't allowed a five-on-five goal through two games, but the Red Wings are 0-2. Dylan Garand earned his first career shutout as the top line with Andrew Copp at center barely registered.

(56:35) - Jets Loss & Finnie Centering

Down 3-0 on three power-play goals, Detroit answered with Viktor Arvidsson's first goal of the season, follow by Emmitt Finnie centering a reshuffled line with MBN & DeBrincat. Todd McLellan called it Michael Brandsegg-Nygard's best game as a Red Wing.

(01:04:35) - NHL News - Bettman Comments & Barkov Injury

Gary Bettman says no-trade and no-move clauses weren't meant for situations like this and the NHL will take a look. Also, Barkov on LTIR for at least 10 games, which revives talk of Florida as a Larkin trade partner.

(01:09:50) - Overtime Mailbag

Your questions on Lucas Raymond's quiet start, Patrik Laine rumors and whether big minutes help or hurt the young guys' trade value. Plus why an offer sheet longer than five years may be unlikely.

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Red Wings defenseman Simon Edvinsson is skating in Sweden, still unsigned, two days before the home opener. Max Bultman of The Athletic Detroit joins this Detroit Red Wings podcast for a season preview covering the Detroit Red Wings lineup, Dylan Larkin's trade request, & more.

(00:00) - Intro

(04:25) - Edvinsson Goes to Sweden Simon Edvinsson is skating with Frolunda of the SHL, and the panel traces a summer of indecision from Steve Yzerman's July 15 removal as GM to Shawn Horcoff getting the interim GM job days before camp. Plus, how a layup deal became a contract standoff that complicates Alex DeBrincat's future, and the Elliotte Friedman report that Zach Werenski put Detroit on his no-fly list, & more.

(31:40) - Red Wings 23-Man Roster Review of the roster announced Monday: William Wallinder looks like the odd man out once bodies return with Andreas Englund claimed off waivers. Todd McLellan calls Dylan Larkin day-to-day, will he play? Plus, what to make of Mazur, Anton Johansson, and others.

(40:20) - Forward Group Preview With Andrew Copp potentially opening as the first-line center, so the panel sees a top-heavy group that may finish near the bottom of the NHL in scoring. Max predicts a Larkin trade by December 1, and Marco Kasper has to climb back up the lineup after ending exhibition play in the bottom six.

(1:03:25) - Defense Preview & Faulk Trade Talk Anton Johansson's five exhibition assists and Axel Sandin-Pellikka's best preseason in a Red Wings jersey make the case for playing both every night. Justin Faulk, with a 15-team no-trade list, could be moved as early as November, and the panel weighs Larkin deals with Minnesota or a three-way with Montreal and Washington.

(1:20:05) - Gibson and Tarasov in Net Starting goalie John Gibson and backup Daniil Tarasov are both in contract years; Max Bultman wants Michal Postava, now with the Grand Rapids Griffins, to get NHL games down the stretch if Detroit is out of contention.

(1:22:40) - Season Point Predictions All four panelists have the Red Wings missing the playoffs, with point totals between 79 and 82. The crew also asks what really separates Detroit without Larkin from teams like the Seattle Kraken.

(1:26:40) - Overtime Edvinsson can still sign an offer sheet, and the risk only grows once the season starts. Patrons also ask about hands-on owners, why Team USA players pass on Canadian markets, Lucas Raymond's ceiling and the league-wide shortage of centers.

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Reports of the Red Wings preferring a bridge contract for Simon Edvinsson have this Detroit Red Wings podcast fuming, & Dylan Larkin's trade list reportedly grows to about 8 teams. Plus, a Hockeytown preseason recap and a full Eastern Conference (Atlantic & Metropolitan Divisions) preview.

(00:00) - Intro Anton Johansson pranks the Winged Wheel Podcast!

(05:50) - Preseason Wrap-Up Alex DeBrincat drops the gloves and then buries the overtime winner in a 3-2 win over the Sabres, while the finale against Columbus was forgettable hockey. Nate Danielson looked like a steady NHLer without the offensive bite, Marco Kasper got bumped to the fourth line in the finale and still put up two points, and nobody up front forced a tough roster decision.

(14:50) - ASP & Anton Johansson Shine Axel Sandin-Pellikka walked the blue line with confidence and was a weapon on the flank with the man advantage, while Anton Johansson kept getting pucks through to the net and ran the point on a few power plays (despite their defensive warts). Also, why William Wallinder may end up in Grand Rapids or elsewhere.

(21:15) - Andreas Englund Waiver Claim Detroit claims Andreas Englund off waivers from Calgary, a big depth defenseman that Todd McLellan praised for fitting the room. Where does he fit in with Jacob Bernard-Docker day-to-day and the young defensive core competing for spots whil Edvinsson remains unsigned?

(26:30) - Edvinsson Bridge Deal Reports Simon Edvinsson remains unsigned, and reports suggest Detroit preferring a bridge contract. How big of a disaster would this be for the Red Wings, how much have they cost themselves by waiting this long, and who's to blame for another own-goal?

(45:25) - Larkin Trade List Expands Elliotte Friedman reports Dylan Larkin's list has grown from three or four teams to about eight, none of them in Canada - and Washington is the only one that may make sense. Would a Protas, Cole Hutson, or Leonard be available? How does this affect the timeline of a Dylan Larkin trade?

(1:04:05) - Eastern Conference Preview Full previews for the Metropolitan Division and Atlantic Division: standings predictions, offseason changes, & more.

(1:43:15) - Overtime Patron questions on whether Edvinsson's agent should be shopping an offer sheet, one-to-ten grades for the offense, defense and goaltending so far, and Emmitt Finnie's switch-handed faceoff win.

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This Detroit Red Wings podcast covers the excitement of Detroit's youth in a big preseason performance, & features a timely interview with defense prospect Anton Johansson. Hockeytown news & analysis covers Marco Kasper vs. Sidney Crosby, the roster battles taking shape, and a full Western Conference preview.

(00:00) - Intro Brad is down and out, so Ryan and Evan have free reign.

(05:50) - Preseason Game Recap The Wings get shut out by Columbus, then bounce back with a 7-4 win featuring Anton Johansson's 4 helpers and Axel Sandin Pellikka's first WWP-certified piss missile of the season.

(13:40) - MBN & ASP Shine + Nate Danielson's Third-Line Case 2 more goals from Michael Brandsegg-Nygard and Axel Sandin-Pellikka's confidence. Also, is Danielson's stock is rising? We make the case for letting him sink his claws into an NHL role.

(24:50) - Waivers & Injury Update Who's been waived, who cleared, and what the 13th forward battle looks like. Carter Bear is day-to-day with an upper-body injury, while Dylan Larkin is back skating ahead of the preseason finale.

(34:55) - Anton Johansson Interview The Swede joins the show to talk his four-assist preseason, his hockey family, getting a concussion from his future roommate, and development help from Nicklas Lidstrom back home.

(49:20) - Western Conference Preview The Central and Pacific in one shot: the Avalanche stay on top, the Mammoth and Sharks push for a step forward, and nobody knows what to make of the Oilers.

(1:40:20) - Overtime Your questions on which kid gives us the most hope, trophy picks, and the nine-defensemen logjam.

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Training Camp has wrapped & Todd McLellan is back. This Detroit Red Wings podcast digs into Larkin trade talk after reports that ownership balked at a futures-based return. Hockeytown news & analysis covers Larkin somber press conference, McLellan's blunt praise for the kids over the veterans, & a potential roster moves heading into the preseason..

(00:00) - Intro and The Toddfather Speaks McLellan says the young players outworked the vets and it "wasn't even close" - a quote machine planting seeds for a younger lineup.

(05:15) - Ownership vs. the Futures Trade The report that Chris Ilitch didn't like Steve Yzerman's assessment of a Larkin return, why a win-now deal doesn't exist, and how a futures package could still be flipped for help sooner than you'd think.

(27:50) - Larkin Press Conference Takeaways Dylan Larkin's presser answers, the "it's personal" explanation & lack of information, the three-team list problem, and why the whole thing may have made the situation worse.

(36:10) - Jersey Updates and Detroit Sportsnet Info The "Trash Patch" is gone as the Red Wings bring in DQS as the newest jersey sponsor. Also, the Centennial jersey stays in the rotation, and updates on how to catch DSN broadcasts as Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond head into their 30th season together.

(40:30) - Simon Edvinsson Contract Watch No Edvinsson extension yet with preseason days away - what the holdup means and why missing reps matters in a shortened camp.

(51:20) - Projected Red Wings Lines & the Kids Camp lines take shape with Andrew Copp centering the top unit, plus which young forwards are penciled in and who has to play their way onto the roster. Is MBN a lock? Can Carter Bear make a splash? Is Nate Danielson in the driver's seat? Also, NHL news including Connor Hellebuyck's suspension.

(1:00:50) - Overtime Your questions on Larkin's trade value, the Trey Augustine timeline, the Connor Hellebuyck suspension parallel, and more.

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Horcoff takes over - kind of! This Detroit Red Wings podcast reacts to Shawn Horcoff officially being named interim GM, plus a Red Wings injury update on Dylan Larkin on the eve of training camp. Hockeytown news & analysis breaks down the botched GM search, Simon Edvinsson's contract negotiations, and what a front office roster shakeup could actually look like.

(00:00) - Intro The Horcoff era begins as we return to 2 episodes per week!

(04:45) - Horcoff Named Interim GM How a two-month search with an outside firm ended with the guy already in the building, and why the process was fumbled even if the result works out.

(15:45) - Full Authority & Hockey Ops Changes Horcoff commits to reshuffling hockey operations and adding new voices: how much can realistically change this late, and what ownership's "more progressive" directive means.

(23:40) - Edvinsson & DeBrincat Contracts Simon Edvinsson contract talks are underway with the new seven-year max in effect. Plus, why an Alex DeBrincat extension got a lot more expensive as the summer went on.

(34:30) - Larkin Injury & Training Camp Dylan Larkin's off-ice injury keeps him off the ice to start camp - the optics, the timing, and how the trade request hangs over everything.

(47:30) - Around the NHL Quinn Hughes continues to remain unextended in Minnesota, and a flood of signings resets the contract market league-wide. Plus, Fantilli, Hellebuyck, Nikishin, & others unsigned or holding out of camp.

(1:04:55) - Overtime Offer sheet ideas, whether Moritz Seider should be named captain, and which prospects trend up this season.

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