On March 24th, 2024, Neal Tricarico's autistic son Anthony attempted suicide. Nine weeks later, on May 25th, Anthony passed. Neal had spent 20 years in rooms with Tony Robbins and Steve Leshansky helping other people transform their lives. He thought that was the career. It turned out to be the training.
He didn't perform his way through the grief. He didn't wait for closure. He built the Endurant Movement instead — an inner transformation framework for people carrying pain that never resolves, who've stopped waiting to feel better and started learning to carry it differently.
In this conversation, Martin and Neal go to places most podcasts won't. Martin shares his own loss — his father's suicide when he was 21, and how that single event set him on 30 years of contemplative practice. Together they explore what grief actually is, what identity becomes when the role you built your life around gets torn out, and what's possible on the other side of the most unimaginable pain a parent can face.
They go deep on: autism spectrum disorder and the devastating gap in mental health protocols for neurodiverse youth; why children with Anthony's diagnosis are nearly 30% more likely to die by suicide — and what no one is talking about; the nine weeks between Anthony's attempt and his passing, and what Neal calls the "in-between"; how a community of 75 strangers praying on Zoom carried a family through the uncarriable; Tony Robbins, post-traumatic growth, and what 20 years of transformation work actually prepares you for; mediumship, soul communication, and the decision to let Anthony go; the Endurant Method — a framework for moving from suffering to pain to purpose; the Buddhist philosophy of observing pain rather than fleeing it; and why grief is not something to complete — it's love with nowhere to go, waiting to be redirected.
This is one of the most honest, most human conversations on this podcast. If you've lost someone, if you're carrying something that won't resolve, if you're trying to understand what purpose looks like after devastation — this one is for you.
If you or someone you know is struggling, please reach out to the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.
🌐 Learn more about Neal's work and the Endurant Movement: https://www.endurantmovement.org/
Odyssey & Alchemy is a podcast about the journey inward and the transformation that follows — hosted by Martin Prihoda from Salt Spring Island, BC.