Presenting a magical working with colleagues Jason Mendel and Paul, we encounter the Estes method of spirit communication, and its potential use in magick, exploring: the background circumstances to this episode; requests for magical interventions and the criteria for deciding whether to get involved; ethical considerations around magical interventions; the ethical mismatch between magick and everyday life; the unusual nature of the entity involved in this case; second order magick; details of our preliminary working, using the Estes method; the Estes protocols; a recording of the session; the question of why spirit communication often is not direct; a couple of odd synchronicities; Alan Chapman’s caution against parasitic entities; Metatron, Sandalphon, and a dead-end; arrival at an interpretation that makes sense of the session; the archangel Poiel; our formulation for the second working; the roots of the Estes method in paranormal investigation and pseudoscience; Hellier as a journey from pseudoscience into conscious magick; technology versus trance mediumship; similarities and differences between the Estes method and the Ouija board; the contrast between verbal and written messages in spirit communication; how it is not meaning that is illusory but meaninglessness; the reality of meaning and the similarity of meaning with love.

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