Of Two Minds

Listen to our teaser, and get ready for some seriously amazing conversations!

A conversation between cop-scholar Peter Moskos and urban-peacekeeper Devone Boggan on policing, race and “politically correct bullshit.” Both have committed their lives to reducing urban gun violence, one by reforming policing and the other by caring for criminals.

A conversation between scrappy writer Matt Sumell and his social justice warrior sister Jackie Sumell. They grew up in a household that was torn apart by a gender war. Decades later, that war still dominates their relationship.