What does it truly cost to follow Jesus? In this episode, we sit with the weight of discipleship — not the cultural version shaped by church routines or emotion, but the biblical call to die to self, surrender our will, and follow Christ wherever He leads.

We unpack Luke 14 and Jesus’ own words about hating one’s own life, carrying the cross, and counting the cost before deciding to follow Him. Through honest stories about growing up in church without real discipleship, spiritual mentorship, wrestling with comfort, and walking with new believers through grief and transformation, we draw a clear line between being a fan of Jesus and being His disciple.

We talk fruitfulness, the war between flesh and Spirit (Galatians 5), the fig tree that looked godly but bore no fruit, and the sobering warning of returning to old patterns “like a dog to its vomit” (2 Peter 2). This is a conversation about surrender, daily repentance, obedience, and the beauty of a life shaped by Scripture rather than convenience.

If you’re wrestling with what it means to pick up your cross, lay down your will, and follow Jesus wholeheartedly, this episode invites you into that deeper walk — thoughtful, costly, and eternally worth it.

Scriptures referenced: Luke 14:25–33, John 3:16, Galatians 5, Matthew 21:18–22, 2 Peter 1–2.

In Revelation 3, Jesus confronts the church that believed it was rich, confident, and spiritually secure — yet He called them poor, blind, and naked. This episode sits in that tension. Together, we talk honestly about lukewarm faith, the deception of feelings, dry seasons, drifting from God, and how easy it is to look spiritually alive on the outside while running on empty within.

We explore why emotions can become an idol, how “feeling far from God” can quietly shape your walk, and why discipleship can’t be built on moods. We talk about confession, community, the heaviness of repentance, and the freedom that comes when hidden things finally come into the light.

If you’ve ever wondered, “Am I lukewarm?” or felt unsure about your security in Christ, this conversation brings clarity, compassion, and a call back to Scripture — not shame, not performance, but real repentance and real relationship.

Scriptures referenced:
Revelation 3, James 5:16, Hebrews 12, 2 Timothy 3.

If this episode helps you draw nearer to Jesus, share it with someone walking through the same battle. We’re building disciples, not an audience.

• Why it took over a year to launch this podcast
• The fear of being “just another Christian podcast”
• What “Off The Pages” means and why the name matters
• Our journeys from church culture to deeper, biblical discipleship
• The importance of being rooted in a healthy, Bible-teaching church
• How Ephesians 4 shapes the purpose of this podcast

The Off The Pages Podcast is where discipleship moves beyond talk and becomes a way of life. Brandon and Jazmin share honest, biblical, and transformative conversations about following Jesus in the real world — in your character, your marriage, your decisions, and your everyday walk.

This podcast isn’t for lukewarm faith. It’s for believers who crave depth, clarity, and a faith anchored in Scripture rather than culture. Each episode invites you to think biblically, grow intentionally, and walk boldly with Jesus.

If you’re ready to step out of comfort and into real discipleship, you’re in the right place.