On the show this week we have former Orlando Predators player & head coach EJ Burt, who recently started a new podcast called Arena Goat Talk!

Arena Goat Talk sits down with legends of the arena football game and dives into their story, lessons learned playing the game and advice they would give the players of today! It's a great listen and they have already had some GREAT guests on — Barry Wagner, Jay Gruden, Hunkie Cooper, John Moyer, Mike Hohensee and more to come!

We also dive into Coach Burt's football journey, the Orlando Predator's culture from the 2000s, adjusting to playing Ironman football as a smaller Defensive Lineman, and of course the podcast and what he's got planned!

Please give Arena Goat Talk a follow, a subscribe, a like — if you like arena football, you're gonna love this show.

IG - https://www.instagram.com/arenagoattalk/

X - https://x.com/arenagoattalk

FB - https://www.facebook.com/people/Arena-Goat-Talk/61574069196230/

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@ARENAGOATTALK

Intro - 0:00

EJ Burt Interview - 2:12

AF1 Week 4 Recap

• Billings vs Washington - 46:25
• Oregon vs Nashville - 51:02
• Albany vs Salina - 55:19

IFL Week 3 Recap

• Tulsa vs Fishers - 1:00:46
• Quad City vs Iowa - 1:04:44
• Arizona vs Green Bay - 1:08:15
• Vegas vs Jacksonville - 1:12:24
• San Diego vs Bay Area - 1:15:46

NAL Week 5 Recap

• Shreveport vs Idaho - 1:20:28
• Wheeling vs Carolina - 1:23:46

The Week Ahead - 1:26:01

Outro - 1:28:06

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On the show this week we have Oregon Lightning DB Nick Brassell! He is a veteran of the arena football game and notably caught the walk-off Hail Mary at the end of this past week's Oregon-Southwest Kansas thriller!

We talked through his football journey, his time at Ole Miss, learning from past mistakes, venturing into arena football, many of the stops he has had along the way and the Oregon Lightning culture they are building in the Pacific Northwest!

Big shoutout to Nick for hopping on the show, go give him a follow on socials!

IG - https://www.instagram.com/nickbrassell11/

Intro - 0:00

Nick Brassell Interview - 2:02

IFL Week 2 Recap

• Iowa vs Green Bay - 25:17
• Quad City vs Massachusetts - 29:08
• Fishers vs Northern Arizona - 32:55
• Tucson vs Arizona - 35:57
• San Antonio vs Bay Area - 40:34
• Vegas vs San Diego - 45:02

AF1 Week 3 Recap

• Salina vs Corpus Christi - 50:28
• Albany vs Nashville - 54:46
• Oregon vs Southwest Kansas - 1:01:38

NAL Week 4 Recap

• Columbus vs Carolina - 1:06:57
• Idaho vs Omaha - 1:09:23
• Colorado vs Sioux City -1:11:28

Outro - 1:12:37

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On the show this week we have former Buffalo Bills WR Stevie Johnson! He spent 8 years in the NFL, he's an entrepreneur, he's a podcast host and he is the Executive Ambassador for Media & Community Relations for the San Diego Strike Force!

It was really great being able to chop it up with Stevie about his football career, his connection with the city of Buffalo, transitioning to entrepreneur life after football, how he got involved with the San Diego Strike Force, plans for the Striking with Stevie podcast, a potential future IFL franchise in Buffalo and more.

He's already off to a great start with content with the team and the Strike Force season hasn't even kicked off yet! Go check it out below and give them a follow on socials and tell them you heard them on Off The Wall!

Striking with Stevie podcast

X - https://x.com/StrikingStevie

IG - https://www.instagram.com/striking_stevie13/

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@striking_stevie13

Stevie Johnson

X - https://x.com/StevieJohnson13

IG - https://www.instagram.com/hbhf.stevie/

Intro - 0:00

Stevie Johnson Interview - 2:09

IFL Week 1 Recap

• Jacksonville vs Massachusetts - 38:19
• Green Bay vs Quad City - 42:34
• Tulsa vs San Antonio - 47:13

AF1 Week 1 Recap

• SW Kansas vs Albany - 52:31
• Oregon vs Washington - 57:16

NAL Week 2 Recap

• Carolina vs Columbus - 1:02:15
• Wheeling vs Shreveport - 1:07:50

AF1 Week 3 Preview - 1:12:40

IFL Week 2 Preview - 1:14:19

NAL Week 4 Preview - 1:17:03

Outro - 1:18:22

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On the show this week we have jumbo episode featuring a big IFL Preview with Alec Schuberth from Sports Coast to Coast!

He is the Lead IFL Contributor for SCtoC and the host of the new show Wager Wednesdays, where he talks through IFL betting lines and sees where there is value and previews the weekend ahead.

If you watched an IFL stream on YouTube at any point last season, you probably saw Alec in the chat talking shop about IFL, stats & betting lines. Alec has a great mind for analytics and the IFL game, so I was very excited to talk shop with Alec and make some predictions that SURELY won't backfire on us.

Please go give Alec & Sports Coast to Coast a follow on socials, and go check out their website throughout the season!

X - https://x.com/SchubieTheSharp

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@SCtoCWagerWednesday

SCtoC

X - https://x.com/SCtoC

IG - https://www.instagram.com/sportscoasttocoast/

Website - https://sportscoasttocoast.proboards.com/

Intro - 0:00

IFL Preview with Alec - 2:35

• League Lay of the Land - 5:10
• Eastern Conference Preview - 20:53
• Western Conference Preview - 38:48
• Championship Predictions - 1:05:55

AF1 Week 1 Recap

• Billings vs Oregon - 1:12:30
• Salina vs Corpus Christi - 1:19:58
• SW Kansas vs Washington - 1:24:36

NAL Week 2 Recap

• Idaho vs Sioux City vs Beaumont - 1:29:48
• Wheeling vs Carolina - 1:34:00
• Colorado vs Omaha - 1:37:06

IFL Week 1 Preview - 1:41:46

AF1 Week 2 Preview - 1:45:06

NAL Week 3 Preview - 1:46:49

Outro - 1:48:58

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On the show this week we are joined by the standout star of AF1 Week 0, SW Kansas Storm DB Michael Lawson!

We dove into his football journey through college and into the pros, getting his shot in the XFL, making his way to Germany to play professional football, coming back to America to play arena football, the SW Kansas football culture with Coach Thomas and we talk through Week 0.

Please go give Michael a follow on socials and let him know you heard him on Off The Wall!

X - https://x.com/44beastLawson

IG - https://www.instagram.com/skuubbaalove/

Intro - 0:00

Michael Lawson Interview - 2:24

AF1 Updates

• Arizona Bandits are OUT - 26:31
• Nashville vs SW Kansas - 30:42

NAL Updates

• Sioux City vs Beaumont - 35:33
• Omaha vs Shreveport - 38:03
• Columbus vs Peach State - 41:40
• Colorado vs Wheeling - 42:37

IFL Updates

• IFL Network is here… with a paywall - 45:53

AF1 Week 1 Preview - 52:12

NAL Week 2 Preview - 54:50

Outro - 55:55

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On the show this week we have the 2024 IFL MVP QB Ja'Rome Johnson of the Vegas Knight Hawks! Ja'Rome had an outstanding season in his first season with Vegas in 2024 and is looking to build on that success into 2025 with a championship on his mind.

We dove into his football journey, his college career at UVA-Wise & Bowie State, how he found his way to Indoor Football, learning the game in his rookie year in Green Bay, learning the ropes of the sport from the Green Bay coaching staff, heading to Vegas, finding success and overcoming adversity, & how close knit the Vegas Knight Hawks are.

Please go give Ja'Rome a follow on socials!

IG - https://www.instagram.com/jroc7_/

X - https://x.com/jarome_7

Intro - 0:00

Ja'Rome Johnson Interview - 2:25

IFL Updates

• Arizona bringing back a star RB - 29:43
• San Antonio bring ANOTHER QB into the fold - 31:14

AF1 Updates

• Partnerships - BettorEdge & Real American Beer (brother) - 33:09
• Week 0 & Pick - 35:35
• Orlando Predators are OUT of AF1 - 39:17

NAL Updates

• My commitment to the NAL in 2025 - 46:11

Outro - 48:53

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On the show this week we have DB Bryce Hampton of the Toronto Argonauts of the CFL! Bryce was the 2024 IFL Defensive Rookie of the Year & All-IFL First Team DB with the Vegas Knight Hawks and will be making his way North for the 2025 season.

We dove into his football journey, how he ended up at Purdue, how a childhood friend got him involved with the Knight Hawks, adjusting to the indoor game, memorable moments in Vegas, playing for Coach Mike Davis & so much more

Please go give Bryce a follow on socials!

IG - https://www.instagram.com/brycehampton0/

Intro - 0:00

Bryce Hampton Interview - 1:53

IFL Updates

• New technology partner - Snipback - 30:04

AF1 Updates

• Wilkes-Barre will not be playing in 2025 - 34:23
• Nashville Kats are ALIVE - 37:30
• Training Camps are starting! - 39:04

Outro - 39:46

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On the show this week we have WR Aakiel Greer of the Arizona Bandits! Aakiel had a breakout year in 2024, where he finished strong with the Wichita Regulators and will be a part of a very talented Bandits squad hitting the field for the first time in 2025.

We chatted through the his football journey, trials and tribulations he's faced along the way in the arena & indoor world, almost giving up on the sport, making the most of his chance in Wichita, learning from Coach Clinton Solomon & what he is most excited about in 2025!

Please go give Aakiel & the Arizona Bandits a follow on socials!

X - https://x.com/I_am_AG3

IG - https://www.instagram.com/agentnumber3_/

X - https://x.com/AZBanditsAF1

IG - https://www.instagram.com/azbanditsaf1/

Intro - 0:00

Aakiel Greer Interview - 2:10

AF1 Updates

• Darius Prince to Corpus Christi! - 44:22
• Training Camp is upon us - 47:17

IFL Updates

• Mass Pirates bringing back some familiar faces - 47:53
• QB Charles McCullum to Tucson - 49:18
• WR Keyvan Rudd back in Quad City - 51:07
• IFL coming to Buffalo? - 52:11

Outro - 55:54

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On the show this week we have QB Andre Sale of the Orlando Predators chatting it up! Andre has been in the Indoor football world for a couple years now and is going to make a big splash next season in AF1 down in central Florida.

We chatted through the his football journey that led him to LSU, life after college football, getting back into playing, learning from Nate Davis, playing in Tulsa, his time with the Louisiana Voodoo, what led him to signing with the Predators & what he is excited about in 2025!

Please go give Andre & the Orlando Predators a follow on socials!

X - https://x.com/ACSale6

IG - https://www.instagram.com/acsale6/

X - https://x.com/Predators_AF1

IG - https://www.instagram.com/predators_af1/

Intro - 0:00

Andre Sale Interview - 2:23

AF1 Updates

• Streaming partner - 28:43
• Malik Henry to Arizona - 31:23
• Nashville situation - 32:40

IFL Updates

• QB TJ Edwards to Tulsa - 35:02
• RB Jimmie Robinson Jr to Jacksonville - 37:05
• WR JT Stokes to Fishers - 39:31
• Mylik Mitchell potentially headed to Iowa? - 41:52

Outro - 44:35

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On the show this week we have the color commentator for the Quad City Steamwheelers of the IFL — his name is Ron Luce!

We talked about how he fell in love with arena & indoor football growing up in Chicago, how he got his start doing color commentary, getting his opportunity with the Quad City Steamwheelers, what he has learned along the way and his own blogging and podcasting journey with On Tap Sports Net!

Please go give Ron, On Tap Sports Net & the Quad City Steamwheelers a follow on socials!

Ron Luce

X - https://x.com/LuceOnTap

IG - https://www.instagram.com/luceontap

On Tap Sports Net

X - https://x.com/OnTapSportsNet

IG - https://www.instagram.com/ontapsportsnet

Website - https://ontapsportsnet.com/

Quad City Steamwheelers

X - https://x.com/QCSteam

IG - https://www.instagram.com/quadcitysteamwheelers/

Intro - 0:00

Ron Luce Interview - 2:07

Outro - 43:20

Shorter episode outside of the interview today, but we'll be back at it next week.

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