This conversation between Angelique, Toby, and Maya explores the experiences and insights of practitioners in the field of acupuncture and Chinese medicine. The discussion covers various topics including patient care, treatment outcomes, the challenges faced by new practitioners, and the importance of patient advocacy. Maya shares her personal experiences with licensing, practice, and the medical system, while also reflecting on the nuances of treatment decisions and the impact of self-treatment. The conversation emphasizes the need for practitioners to empower their patients and navigate the complexities of the healthcare system effectively.TakeawaysThe importance of patient advocacy in the healthcare system.Navigating the complexities of treatment decisions as a new practitioner.The role of self-treatment in understanding patient experiences.Empowering patients to advocate for their own health.The significance of building rapport with patients for effective treatment.Understanding the dynamics of patient-provider relationships.The challenges of managing patient expectations and treatment outcomes.The value of sharing experiences among practitioners for growth.Recognizing the impact of external factors on patient health.The necessity of adapting treatment approaches based on patient feedback.Sound Bite"This is my favorite podcast."Chapters00:00 Introduction 08:20 Guest Introduction and Background09:07 Experiences with Licensing and Practice11:21 Discussion on Patient Experiences and Treatment Outcomes15:59 Navigating the Medical System as Practitioners18:53 Patient Advocacy and Empowerment23:18 Challenges of New Practitioners26:45 Case Studies and Treatment Decisions30:44 Exploring External Pathogenic Factors35:16 Self-Treatment Experiences39:40 Reflections on Treatment Outcomes45:59 Final Thoughts and Closing RemarksKeywordsacupuncture, Chinese medicine, patient care, public speaking, treatment outcomes, practitioner experiences, self-treatment, advocacy, medical system, holistic health