Oh God, I Forgot About That

Teddi and Nick interview their first guests some more!

Julia and Jeremiah from the Sexvangelicals Podcast join us to remember all the terrible sex and relationship advice the church gave us and the good advice they didn't want us to have.

This is Part 2 in a two-part episode in which Julia and Jeremiah from the Sexvangelicals discuss the book Love & Respect with Nick and Teddi.

In this second part, the quartet get into the gritty, shitty details of the relationship advice Eggerichs tries to pass off as useful. Julia and Jeremiah try to break through all the noise of the "crazy cycle," and Nick and Teddi get to bring a bit of gender studies to the conversation. All told, this episode will either leave you feeling grateful for legitimate mental health options or as disrespected as a wife in a 90s sitcom.

Who are the Sexvangelicals?

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Love & Respect Talk (2018) - Part 1

Love & Respect Talk (2018) - Part 2

Wikipedia

Sheila Wray Gregoire’s Open Letter

SWG’s Review of L&R

SWG’s Summary of L&R

The Tragedy of Heterosexuality by Jane Ward

“Women Need Love and Men Need Respect” – Psychology Today

Teddi and Nick interview their first guests!

Julia and Jeremiah from the Sexvangelicals Podcast join us to remember all the terrible sex and relationship advice the church gave us and the good advice they didn't want us to have.

This is Part 1 in a two-part episode in which Julia and Jeremiah from the Sexvangelicals discuss the book Love & Respect with Nick and Teddi. In this first part, the Sexvangelicals talk about their own deconstruction journey, their experience as licensed sex and relationship therapists, and the weird gendered nonsense packed into so much terrible sex self-help from the turn of the millennium (and today!).

Who are the Sexvangelicals?

In this much-requested episode, Teddi and Nick delve into the controversial world of Christian-themed haunted house attractions. Most commonly called "Hell House," this interactive theatre experience was first organized by Jerry Falwell in the 1970s. Since then, thousands of people have gone through the attraction. While differing in format and structure, a typical Hell House graphically re-enacts a variety of social problems (abortion, violence, AIDS) and then closes with an emotional call to salvation. The primary goal of the attraction is to prompt an audience to reflect on the consequences of sin and the age-old fundamentalist question: Where will we go when we die?

The fear-inducing witnessing tool has become less popular today, but still remains active in various parts of the country. In this episode, Teddi and Nick review contemporary promotional materials and scripts for Hell Houses across the nation and reflect on the dangers of the polarizing production.  

Content Note: We discuss some exploitative representations of AIDS, suicide, and sexual assault.

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Hell House documentary, 2002. 

https://www.amazon.com/Hell-House-Aria-Adloo/dp/B002ZVGM7C/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1G1HULHI8GSSA&keywords=Hell+House+documentary&qid=1697910900&sprefix=hell+house+documentar%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-1

Scaremare, Liberty Universityhttps://www.liberty.edu/scaremare/ 

An article about Hell House, written by one of our listeners:https://www.vice.com/en/article/3kvkmy/evangelical-hell-houses-are-waking-nightmares 

Teddi and Nick are back for season 3! This time, they’re stepping a bit out of the turn of the millennium for a bit of academic shit talking. In 2014, the movie God’s Not Dead gripped the evangelical world by the shoulder and shoved it into the “realities” of academia’s persecution of the faith. At least, that’s what Kevin Sorbo wanted us to think. But really, all he made them do was wonder: Does one need to be a former demigod to get a tenure-track gig? It sure does feel that way!

Join Teddi and Nick as they discuss, with at times, excruciating attention to detail (we know, we’re sorry!), all that this production got wrong about philosophy, logic, and the academic life. We just think academia wants us to defend it from a movie that one Google reviewer described as “a film so bad it made me an atheist.”

Thanks so much for your patience as we navigate the complicated overlapping of careers, dissertations, and family. We are so excited to finally be able to offer you all new content after some time away. 

Thanks for remembering with us on our new season of Oh God, I Forgot About That.

Due to some technical difficulties, the episode description will be updated with a full list of sources soon. 

Released in 2002, A Walk To Remember was a coming-of-age romantic drama based on Nicholas Sparks’ 1999 novel published under the same name. Starring Shane West and Mandy Moore, the story follows rebellious teenage Landon who falls in love with Jamie, the town minister’s daughter and professed believer. While not intended to be a “Christian film,” the explicit spiritual themes made it the focus of many conversations in the Church. In this episode, Teddi and Nick examine an artifact this straddled the line between the secular and the Christian world, exploring some of the praise and critique it received from both sides. 

We have been experimenting with a new recording software and are dealing with some troubleshooting issues. We apologize that this episode was delayed and is not up to our usual standards. We very much appreciate your patience as we get things figured out.

Donald Miller's Blue Like Jazz: Non-Religious Thoughts on Christian Spirituality (2003) is a collection of semi-autobiographical essays that explore the author's growing understanding of the nature of God. A classic text birthed from the emerging church tradition, Miller's book was divisive, controversial, funny, at moments irreverent, and persistently critical of the contemporary Church. Although Blue Like Jazz is ultimately a story about a man's "return" to faith, Teddi and Nick frame the text as an artifact that was, ironically, actually key to her (and likely many others') eventual deconstruction. Join us for a conversation about the emerging church movement, Donald Miller, and a divisive text that--whether intentioned or not-- might have helped a generation begin to reconsider their faith. 

Blue Like Jazz on Archive.org

Lee Strobel first published The Case for Christ in 1998. Since then, Christian apologetics has never been the same. Strobel, a pastor when he wrote the thing, marketed his book on his reputation as a law journalist for the Chicago Tribune back in the early 70s. In the book, the first of a seemingly never ending cascade of follow ups, Strobel talks to thirteen "expert" witnesses to address questions about the historicity of Christ. In this episode, Nick and Teddi spend some time discussing the sloppy argumentation, the loaded and dizzying rhetoric, and the just plain bad research that Strobel slapped between the pages of his unfortunately best selling book. Join them as they break open the not quite air-tight case for answers to questions no one was really asking in the first place.

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Join Teddi and Nick as they acknowledge there's always more to talk about in their first mini episode. This week, they will be returning to DC Talk's Jesus Freak album to discuss a more somber song.

Let us know if you like this new shorter format as an occasional respite from the longer form episodes.