Do you know that feeling when someone else shares your personal struggles or pains and you’re left feeling exposed and shamed? That is such a contrast to TFW (the feeling when) someone listens with kindness to that very vulnerable part of your feelings going through hard times.

Eunice Lee, season 1 co-host of Erasing Shame, chats with DJ Chuang about this other side of shame and why we need other people to experience the erasing of shame.