Stef is back with guest Leslie Howard (yoga teacher, hospice volunteer, and all-around death-positive human) for a conversation about end-of-life awareness that’s somehow calming instead of terrifying.

They talk about Shavasana as more than just the nap at the end of yoga, why death suddenly turns into a logistical panic when we avoid talking about it, what people actually care about near the end of life, and why grief isn’t linear — it’s wavy, messy, and deeply human.

Also: a gentle reminder you might need today — we are nature. And sometimes the whole point is just zooming back into your actual life.

Follow along on IG & TikTok: ⁠@mytherapistsaidpod⁠ — New episodes every Friday.